NANR Executive Director Jim Jonas interviews honorary NANR Co-Chair Katherine Gehl, former CEO of Gehl Foods and co-author of the groundbreaking Harvard Business School report, "Why Competition in the Politics Industry is Failing America."

Gehl and Jonas discuss her upcoming book, "The Politics Industry: How Political Innovation Can Break Partisan Gridlock and Save Our Republic" (available for pre-order on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, and other places books are sold), along with the nonpartisan political innovations needed to end the competition crisis in American politics and transform the national political process to be more representative, more accountable to voters, and healthier for the future of the US.

The podcast, recorded ahead of Thanksgiving, published on the eve of NANR's annual summit, bringing together the preeminent leaders of nonpartisan reform, working to unrig the political duopoly in 2020 and beyond.