Jill Stein and Gary Johnson Find Common Ground on Key Issues
By Shawn M. Griffiths on 10/19/2012 in Capitol Hill, congress, debates, Election 2012, gary johnson, Google Hangout, independent voters, Jill Stein, president, third party, Washington with 31 CommentsRead Time: 4 - 6 minutes

On Thursday, IVN.us hosted the first ever online presidential debate over Google Hangout. Third party candidates, Jill Stein and Gary Johnson, graciously agreed to participate in an informative back-and-forth on important issues that are often neglected by the mainstream candidates.
Dr. Jill Stein is the presidential nominee for the Green Party and Gary Johnson is a former governor of New Mexico and is on the presidential ballot in most states for the Libertarian Party. Even though both are in a position where they have a chance, though slim, at winning the presidency, neither were invited to participate in the presidential debates hosted by the Commission on Presidential Debates.
These third party candidates come from two different schools of political philosophy. Mr. Johnson is a staunch Libertarian, some might argue more than Dr. Ron Paul (R-TX), who believes we need less government to solve the nation’s problems and has focused heavily on dramatic cuts to spending and balancing the budget as the biggest priorities.
“If we don’t balance the budget now we will have a monetary collapse,” Johnson said. He believes we cannot wait five to ten years for a balanced budget. Johnson also believes that in order to create a level playing field for all Americans in order to spur real economic growth we need to abolish the Internal Revenue Service and replace with the Fair Tax.
Dr. Jill Stein can be best described as a progressive-liberal who believes that more government initiatives are the solution to the biggest problems facing the United States today. High on her list of priorities is creating a path for public education, K-college, to be free to every student. Under her plan, the federal government would forgive all existing student loan debt and provide tuition-free education to solve the student debt crisis.
During the debate, Stein said the government should not be in the business of bailing out banks. She expressed her disagreement with the Federal Reserve going forward with another round of Quantitative Easing (QE3). She called it another bailout for the banks and said that, instead of bailing out banks, the government should be bailing out students.
Both presidential candidates disagree on issues mostly dealing with fiscal matters, but despite being on polar opposites of the political spectrum, they still manage to find common ground on some issues and commend each other for their positions on these matters. Dr. Stein said in her opening remarks:
“I think there are so many really critical ways in which we are completely in agreement and on the same page. On the war, on the importance of civil liberties and protecting the freedoms on which this country was founded. The importance of ending the drug wars, stopping the Wall Street bailouts. I think these are really fundamental points of agreement that I know for many people overshadow our areas of disagreement.”
The issues that Dr. Stein mentioned as areas of agreement between herself and Mr. Johnson are matters that both candidates have, ultimately, been able to find common ground on. Their positions on the issues might differ to some degree, but fundamentally they come to the same conclusions. Especially, on matters of civil liberties and individual freedoms.
She is right too. There are many independent voters who would find this appealing in a candidate for president or any elected office. So many people in the United States are fed up with partisan gridlock in Washington, or politics as usual, which is why there are so many people abandoning party affiliation and choosing to identify themselves as independents. People want to see our elected officials meet each other halfway and put the country above political squabbles.
Gary Johnson and Jill Stein may appear to be polar opposites. One believes in an individualistic philosophy; that people, and not governments are the true innovators. The other, a belief that government can and should promote quality social change; and by doing so, our individual lives will be better for it. One believes the federal government does not have a role in public education. The other believes the federal government should have more of a role. One believes in free market solutions to solve many problems the country faces, including matters of energy and climate control. The other believes in government solutions.
However, both recognize the need for change and reform on several issues and can come to an agreement on the desired end results. They believe it is important that we open political discourse so that all voices have a chance to be heard and we can find the best solutions for the biggest concerns Americans have. This is the type of leadership people want from the politicians who represent them in our nation’s capital.





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31 Comments
Matt Metzner
10.19.2012
@mmetzner
Great to see a civil discourse between candidates. It’s certainly a rarity today and these candidates proved it can be done.
Lucas Eaves
10.19.2012
@lucaseaves
I really liked when Jill Stein started her speech by saying all the things she agreed on with Gary Johnson. Civility, a lost word in politics.
Michael Higham
10.19.2012
@michaelhigham
Both Gov. Johnson and Dr. Stein appear to be incredible sincere. They don’t have to put up a front and it lends itself well to a civil debate. In some ways, they are polar opposites but they’re in a position where calling each other ‘wrong’ is not advantageous.
Alex Gauthier
10.19.2012
@alexg
Interest in these candidates has been amazing. I find it hard to believe that the CPD would exclude them due to lack of voter interest.
Kendra Frederick
10.19.2012
You mean to tell me, it’s possible to debate politics without getting nasty?!! OMFG, someone tell the MSM.
Daniel Doyle
10.19.2012
you worry about abortion, and gay marriage… while we save the world from elitist bankers… who only claim to care about that stuff
Jess Roos
10.19.2012
LOL @ Michael O’TOOLe. Jill and Gary find common ground on issues that require common sense. The things that they debate are genuinely debatable. Thank you to IVN for making the debate possible!
Kendra Frederick
10.19.2012
@Michael, if you care so much what God thinks of those people, leave it to him to judge and punish them. Before any labels we give one another, we’re human and should all be entitled to the same inalienable rights. I’m not saying that I think marriage should be a governmentally mandated thing, but as long as it is, everyone should have access. Not just those who fit into your mold.
Tim Kroupa
10.19.2012
Michael, what language are you speaking? Is that god language?
Matt Rohloff
10.19.2012
Thanks @Michael the Tool.
God belongs in church. Policy belongs with government.
Thanks IVN. The debate really showcased other viable options to the big 2 and how rational they both sound.
Any chance of a Lib/Green ticket in the future?
Jeff Delancey
10.19.2012
Since neither of these candidates stand a snowballs chance in hell of being elected…..
MJ Raichyk
10.19.2012
..well, there are places on this planet where the inhabitants would classify it as ‘hell’ and yet snowballs do quite well… and just for a moment of reflection, if the latest issue of Veteran Today is even halfway accurate, dear Romney may be forced to withdraw.. then what happens to your snowball… Romney apparently was pandering to Israel and other foreign funders for campaign millions and that should convict him, at the FEC or at least in the voting public’s eyes, of being ‘bought’ by foreign influences and not reliably able to claim that he would be an American President in anyway.. ttyl
Jess Roos
10.19.2012
@ Jeff -We gotta start somewhere. @ Matt- That would be amazing!
Tim Kroupa
10.19.2012
A Lib/Green ticket would be extremely odd considering their ideals are about as opposite as it gets. Libertarians believe in freedom, and liberty, sound money, & free markets. Greens believe the govt should provide everything, and ignore economic realities thinking everything is a right and everything should be free.
Lana Gail Osborne Dearing
10.19.2012
2michael,
Matt Rohloff
10.19.2012
That’s actually incorrect Tim. (You sound like Boehner talking about Pelosi)
Yes, they do differ on economic policy but they agree on far more than i had expected. And didn’t Lincoln surround himself with opposing ideologies?
Collaboration & compromise. Absolutism is extremely ignorant.
Todd Vickers
10.19.2012
Tim we don’t need you to speak for us. Represent your own views. Don’t misrepresent ours.
Lana Gail Osborne Dearing
10.19.2012
Gary believes in liberty and freedom for the people and as a human being, we have the right to make choices for our bodies and with whom we love.. he has his own beliefs but doesn’t feel it is any business of the government to tell us what we can and can do with our personal lives. The judging should be left up to God or whatever your higher power is about your body or soul mate. I personally don’t believe in abortion except in certain conditions, abortions after so many weeks ever and certainly not as birth control. A fetus is a baby as soon as it is conceived to me because God said that he had known us before we were in our mother’s womb.. People should be free to live as they choose as long as they are not breaking the laws of the land. Morally should not be legislated and tried to be controlled by law. You can no legislate morals no more than you can make the drug war work..Prohibition doesn’t work either, you would think that our country had already learned that lesson. I for one will choose not to judge my fellow Americans.. I think Gary Johnson and Judge Jim Gray are awesome. Lived in NM the whole time Gary was governor and he was great and will make a great president. Personally met both men and they are just awesome, down to earth men who speak the truth and have common sense…Praying for a miracle to happen in America.
Jess Roos
10.19.2012
Thank you @ Matt and @ Todd. It’s important to surround yourself with differing opinions. Just look at what happens to a particular person of faith that surrounds themselves with other people who are in absolute agreement. with them They will likely become a bigot and lose sight of reality. This also rings true in government.
Roger Winkler
10.19.2012
They may agree on some things, but Matt Rohloff, the proposition of a Lib/Green ticket is incredibly far-fetched as they are diametrically opposed on the appropriate size and power of government. Just beneath the veneer on Green, are statist foundations, the opposite to Libertarian.
Tim Kroupa
10.19.2012
Well, once the wars are ended, and civil liberties restored, there would be a lot of disagreement in what role the government should play in our daily lives. I just don’t see a lot of agreement beyond that.
Jeff Delancey
10.19.2012
Starting somewhere would mean actually starting. These will not even appear on the ballot in all 50 states. I would love a third party candidate. We will have to have real election reform before its viable
Anirudh Ravishankar
10.19.2012
actually i think the greens and the libertarians can cooperate. They can end wars and protect civil liberties together and instead of a consumption tax we could have a green tax on fuel. The greens on their part should give up their marxist idea of class warfare and should support the libertarians in eliminating the IRS and corporate taxes and replace all of them with taxes on fuel, on polluting industries, on CFCs and other polluting chemical products
Anirudh Ravishankar
10.19.2012
I’m an atheist, green libertarian. I believe in climate change. I believe in science. But I also understand economics and hate the Keynesian paradigm. The solution would be as many economics would agree to separate the market from the non-market. The earth is getting destroyed not because of markets but because of the lack of it. There is no market for clean air or market for a livable planet. We need to cut greenhouse emissions to slow global warming and yet none of us have anything to gain from individually. The solution is an innovative system of private-public partnership and carbon taxes. But the green new deal is just bs
Jeff Delancey
10.19.2012
Which is why the independent voter is a weak voting block. A large majority is independent because they agree with no one… no unification… our strength is our weakness.
Jeff Delancey
10.19.2012
Carbon taxes would lead to those that “do” being punished while those that “don’t” provide no tax.
Wayne Rogers
10.19.2012
I thought the Q and A format, rather than an actual debate was nice, and exactly what the other parties should do as well.
Jeff Delancey
10.19.2012
I personally feel like carter, bush, clinton, bush, and Obama were very incapable of the kind of leadership this country needs…. some bordering on destructive… you can all do what you like… johnson nor stein stand a chance. I personally don’t believe voting for your candidate is ever a wasted vote… but Obama has to go. I feel that casting my vote for a candidate that cannot win is counter productive.
Jeff Delancey
10.19.2012
Voter and election reform needed badly
Matt Mirmak
10.21.2012
@Matt Mirmak
As a registered Libertarian, I found this debate a breath of fresh air compared to the hostility that seems to come out of the rhetoric of the Obama and Romney campaigns. When I was working on the Yes on 19 campaign, the Green Party volunteers were some of the most pleasant people to work with. While we may have some fundamental disagreements on economic policy and the role of government, the American people want to see parties work with one another.
Brandon Fallon
10.21.2012
@bfallon
When politicians agree, things get done. As long as Dr. Stein and Gov. Johnson could at least state what they agree on gives me hope that politics is not so gridlocked. Can you imagine if Romney said he agreed with Obama on a single issue? I don’t think that happened, but if it did, you’d have the conservative talking heads rattle their cages for the following week.