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The Presidential Debate The Mass Media Won’t Report On

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Mitchell Bupp, of Independent Voter Radio on Freedom Slips, hosted his second independent debate — this time with 6 independent candidates: Denise Bedio, John “Green” Ferguson, Dr. Lynn S. Kahn, Joe Anthony, Marque Lundgren, and Dave Parker.

The first debate focused on the economy, Common Core, and Syria. In round two, Bupp covered government spending, illegal immigration, and more on the Middle East.

The theme throughout: lack of trust in government. The solution? People must do the work of governing themselves by, as Dr. Kahn suggests, running for office; and as Dave Parker, founder of the Free Energy Party is doing, bypassing conflict in our current government by working on bottom-up solutions.

How Can We Reduce Spending by Congress?

“There is no simple way,” says Denise Bedio, a labor leader from Berwick, Pennsylvania. She offers ‘getting rid of alphabet agencies,’ refocusing government function to state and local levels, and reducing military spending. She also suggests re-defining what it means to be a congressperson by reducing pay, and enacting term limits.

“If our representatives work like regular Americans, it will increase accountability,” she posits.

Joe Anthony agreed with Bedio on decreasing military spending, labeling U.S. foreign policy ‘imperialistic.’ He also suggested closing the DEA, and ending agricultural and fossil fuel subsidies.

John ‘Green’ Ferguson, founder of the Eco/Green Party, says demanding clean bills will stop lobbying and save time.

Dr. Kahn, an organizational psychologist for government for the past 32 years, put the onus on the people:

“If we want to stop tax breaks, corporate welfare, and wasteful programs, we have to vote current congressmen out. If they are running unopposed–run for office!”

She also implored listeners to vote for a candidate who knows how government spends money. Echoing part of her platform, Stop Funding Stupid, she says, “Government buys stupid things, or buys important things stupidly.”

Dave Parker, founder of the Free Energy Party, was adamant that he will use the RICO Act to launch racketeering and collusion charges against government officials.

“If it is illegal to bribe police and judges, then should it be legal to bribe politicians, or ones way into government?” He said.

Parker’s assertion is that lobbying is — at its core — bribery, and should be illegal, but can lobbying be deemed illegal?

Daniel Weiser wrote for Investopedia that lobbying is enshrined in the First Amendment of the Constitution as part of redress of grievances, and again in a 1995 Lobbying Disclosure Act. There might be an opening to change lobbying as it is, but there also hangs Citizens United, declaring money as free speech.

What Should The U.S. Do about Illegal Immigration?

Of the six candidates, only Joe Anthony didn’t mention more enforcement. He blames the War on Drugs for causing conflict in Mexico and along the border. His solution?

“We should help Mexicans decrease crime and bloodshed by ending the War on Drugs,” he said.

This position has abundant company from both sides of the political spectrum. The American Conservative, Washington Monthly, and several other in-depth reports cite U.S. involvement in drug trafficking as a main source of gang violence, and mass emigration away from that violence to the U.S.

Bedio chimed in with a related solution: help others make their countries more livable, so that people won’t want to escape to the U.S. Parker touted his party platform of creating free energy as a source of economic stability to hedge scarcity and violence.

All other candidates echoed each other invoking mainstream views like securing the border, deporting illegals, and enforcing current laws. Kahn pointed out that refugees, like those coming from Syria, already go through a long tracking process, but those coming in with visas are much more numerous and not tracked.

“I worked in aviation during 9-11,” she said. “We need to understand who is coming in, but we need less vetting of refugees, and more in the visa process.”

The Middle East

Bupp asked the candidates if we are at war with Islam, and if Turkey is a U.S. ally. Every candidate but Lundgren, stated that the U.S. is not at war with Islam, and turned the looking glass back on the U.S. to ask, ‘Is the U.S. acting in its own self-interest, or are U.S. actions encouraging terror?’

“Just as many [as want Turkey out] want to kick us out of NATO,” Kahn said. “We have killed 1.3 million civilians — mostly women and children — in our War on Terror.”

She followed with one of her talking points, “We need to be strong to build peace, but we also need to be well respected.”

Kahn questioned whether we can be strong when so few have faith in our own government. To rebuild domestic strength, she added, “We need to strengthen our values of justice, equality, freedom, and personal choice.”

“We don’t know what is going on,” said Parker about the War on Terror. “We do know that our rights are gone.”

Parker stressed that discussing the War on Terror is incendiary and volatile.

“We are more likely to die in the shower than a terror attack,” he commented. He further questioned how such a threat has been overblown to the point of eroding our rights.

“We need to take a look at our government’s role in fake religious and race wars for the petro-dollars,” Parker said.

Anthony had the same sentiment on the War on Terror:

“We need to grow up and turn off disgusting cable news that is trying to scare us. We don’t need to change the whole nature of our country in order to address this issue. [Terrorism] is going to happen once in a while — especially if we have an aggressive foreign policy that kills innocents.”

Regarding Turkey, Anthony chided, “If you think Turkey is helping ISIS, look at the U.S. We are selling horrible weapons to Saudi Arabia — inspiration for terror is coming right out of that country.”

According to a CATO institute study, China, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia — all U.S. allies — are sponsors of terrorism.

Denise Bedio called the War on Terror a fraud.

“It creates more terrorists than it eliminates, by design, to profit the military industrial complex,” he explained.

It is true that the U.S. is number one in arms sales, followed by Russia. The biggest importer of arms is Saudi Arabia, and militarization of the Middle East has grown “ten-fold in 20 years,” according to the Middle East Research and Information Project (MERIP).

Regarding Turkey’s support of terrorism, Bedio, in line with Anthony, said, “What will we do about ourselves? The U.S. has trained and supported terrorists. How are we different?”

John “Green” Ferguson observed that the whole hierarchy of the international system is changing and needs to be re-assessed.

“Who are our allies?” he asked. “We have everyone’s back, but who has ours?”

Regarding the War on Terror, Green says it is media-generated: “The media is run by rich people pushing their own agenda — why do we never hear a story about an independent?”

Lundgren sounded a similar alarm.

“We have to take a good long look at who our friends and allies are. We are funding our own demise,” he said.

Lundgren was the only candidate to support the War on Terror.

“We have to win. People are taught to be terrorists from birth. We need to teach them love and respect,” he remarked.

His solution? Seize the finances of terrorists, and then use those funds to kill them.

“They preach ‘death to America’ and burn our flags,” he said, adding, “Russia should not be the beacon of Christianity for the world — that is a big problem for us.”

In a follow-up with Lundgren, he cited an RT article, highlighting Russian concerns of Christian persecution. Since the beginning of the Syrian conflict, the article said, the most important Christian holy sites in the country have been destroyed and the Christian population has decreased by 1 million.

Lundgren observed that anti-Christian activities are not making headlines. The article also said that, “the outburst of this “malicious phenomenon” could be caused by the activities of various nations outside the Middle East region, especially Western countries pursuing their own interests.”

In this light, there is a bit of Catch-22. The U.S. pursues its interests, and in return, creates a blow-back of terrorism. Redefining our interests, as many independent candidates suggest, might be the key.

Independents Building Momentum?

The American people don’t trust government to spend taxes, regulate citizenship, or conduct foreign policy, often accusing corporations of hijacking the U.S. government. Parker calls this — the marriage of corporations and the government — fascism.

People also don’t trust the media to fulfill their societal role of providing accurate analysis and information. With control already out of the people’s hands, how can the U.S., as Kahn says, “be strong at home”?

Independents are already the majority in the U.S. The biggest challenge is setting up a system conducive to the majority of the U.S. populace that is neither Republican nor Democrat. While the infrastructure for success outside of the two-party system is not in place, it is being built by many small efforts, like Bupp’s. Change is coming.

To quote Parker’s mentor, systems theorist Buckminster Fuller:

“You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To change something, build a new model that makes the existing model obsolete.”

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127 comments
Val Owens
Val Owens

Sums it up pretty accurately.

LaNita Canaday
LaNita Canaday

Your opinion. I think he will be good for the country due to he is not an politician that says one thing and does another. Think about it

Roberta Anderson Kirzinger
Roberta Anderson Kirzinger

I do not hear or read " liberal" media . Where is that notion ? Giving the republicans all the attention is far from liberal.

Carl Kaiser
Carl Kaiser

They don't trust the media with good reason!

Carole Pica Pittman
Carole Pica Pittman

Our govt has been bought. Media lies or doesn't give the full story.

Papo Deleon
Papo Deleon

I thought I was going crazy for a while, because I thought I was the only one who can see that the government was not running the country but instead being run by hand full of 1% elitist bigots , it's nice to know that so many people are aware of the problem we the people are facing today. I just hope we continue to come together to fight against terrorism corporate terrorism and now domestic terrorism. Together we can conquer the forces that mean to do away with our very lives.

LaNita Canaday
LaNita Canaday

“Trump for the rebirth of our constitutional freedom our Founding Fathers had envisioned for the American Republic.” Ten Reasons for Supporting Trump 1. Donald Trump is immune to special interest lobbying because he has accepted no donations or special interest money. No other candidate can make this claim. 2. Donald Trump knows how to negotiate. No one builds an international business empire the size of Mr. Trump’s without being able to win at the negotiating table. 3. Donald Trump is an executive. The President of the United States is the Chief Executive Officer of our nation. We don’t need a policy expert or a legislator – we need someone who knows how to run an organization. Mr. Trump is the only candidate who has a proven record as a successful executive on a large scale. 4. Donald Trump is honest. Mr. Trump is a man who tells the truth. He may not always say it in the most polished way, but our country has had enough suave liars. It is time for some straight forward honesty. 5. Donald Trump is decisive. We hear about his having business interests that filed for bankruptcy. In each case, he looked at the situation as it was, and then he cut his losses. We need someone who will look at government programs realistically and if they are failures; will end the wasteful Washington spending. 6. Donald Trump is courageous. Mr. Trump has been viciously attacked by the Washington establishment and the media – and he has not budged one inch. In other words, he is willing to take charge and lead. 7. Donald Trump listens. At Trump Presidential events, the audience gets to actually speak to him without being screened, and he responds without a teleprompter. 8. Donald Trump understands that a nation without borders, language and laws is not a nation. 9. Donald Trump has actually read the Bill of Rights, and is willing to defend its provisions. He is not afraid to speak about Christian persecution, and protecting gun rights. 10. Donald Trump loves this country – and says so. He wants to make America great again (Cut and Paste-Spread the News)

Ron Clark
Ron Clark

Then why do we buy into that, we are the ones paying the media, stop watching, boycott their advertisers, stop buying the papers just ignore them, let them go bankrupt. The First amendment like all the rest comes with a responsibility to the American people, tell the truth, be honest and don't lie, or exaggerate.

Beverly Lawrence
Beverly Lawrence

I stopped watching US news stations years ago. All they do is make things up.

Mark Welker
Mark Welker

we need people on the left to run for republican seats. the useless republicans in congress need to be replaced,or it won't matter who wins the nomination for president. in my opinion,we need 400 more people like elisabeth warren,bernie sanders , and al franken in our congress...... this means we need to replace about half the dems,and every last republican and tea partier. if you don't have someone like this in your district...... run yourself,if you don't know someone else...... we dont need right winger seats to go unchallenged this time around.

Joann Lackey
Joann Lackey

I do not believe the media tells the public the truth about anything they cover everything up and give us their own version not the true version

Terri Pierce
Terri Pierce

No. Sanders. Trump is a joke. A very bad joke.

Renea Stanchfield
Renea Stanchfield

NASA - National Aeronautics and Space Administration ANd ... ?

Maureen Tate
Maureen Tate

We are lucky to have social media to get the word out,

Maureen Tate
Maureen Tate

If they gave us both sides it would be wonderful ,but they don't . We are all being brainwashed !

Timothy Roepe
Timothy Roepe

Yes, agree, in a nutshell, and have been bitching about it for decades

Ralph Miller
Ralph Miller

America's media are all liberal communist telling lies for the democratic party to get this trash in office they don't report the news they make it up to suit them and the communist they support

Nicolas Golato
Nicolas Golato

It's true. Where do I turn to for accurate news, I have to check 4 or 5 obviously partisan sources and most are probably run by the same owner. Corporations have more rights and access to politicians than citizens and everyone wants my money.

Robert Graves Jr
Robert Graves Jr

Like the Robber Barons, whose greed culminated in the Great Depression, Wall Street is oblivious to the peril that its own greed brings to the world, even as the collapse in 2008 is still fresh in our memories! There is a destructive myth, shared by many conservatives and some liberals as well, that Government is best left to corporations. And the two major Parties see politics as their birthright, building a firewall that effectively excludes a third Party, and fixing a voting system that denies " one man, one vote". But the biggest failure is in our citizens, distracted by sports, rock stars and electronic gadgets, themselves oblivious to the imminent loss of our democracy. Our educational system has been degraded, as corporations eagerly move to privatize that cash cow, as they have done with healthcare, phamaceuticals and prisons.

Harold Davis
Harold Davis

I agree, the biggest problem is politicians are so corrupt that they have allowed themselves to sell their representation of the people to corporate demands no matter how harmful including one of our most fundamental necessities, truth in journalism.

Russ Bischoff
Russ Bischoff

– We definitely need a major change in our country. It's become painfully obvious that both parties are just doing the bidding of their masters, while lamely trying to look like they're trying to represent us – Let's face it, neither party really wants to fix the core economic issues like outsourcing, illegal "immigration" and the importation of foreign H1B visa workers, because they want the cheap labor – For way too many years now, all that either party has been giving the American public is lame political posturing, tokenism and rhetoric – They treat the issues as political footballs and just point fingers at each other or even worse yet, just ignore the real core economic issues altogether – They've used peripheral social issues for years to polarize and distract the American people to the left and the right, while they sold us out to other countries like communist China, India and Mexico with the complicity of both sides of the media who are owned by a handful international corporations. It's Not Rocket Science – Since the free traitors have had their way of it, our largest export has been American jobs and money. At least Trump, Carson, Sanders, Webb and Santorum are finally bringing some of the actual core economic issues out into the light of day – Let's face it, if more Americans would have listened to Ross Perot back in 1992, we wouldn't be in this mess right now. For the last 25-years our government has allowed and enabled our country's industries to get sucked out to countries like communist China, India, Mexico, etc and allowed illegal aliens and H-1B foreigners to continue to pour into our country and take away income-tax-paying American's jobs and drive down wages. Good news for the American People would be more full time jobs with occasional wage increases and without getting benefits taken away – And we all know that that's not happening. Unfortunately, because of what our so-called leaders from both parties have allowed and enabled to happen to our country and the American people, there are continuously more and more Americans falling out of the middle class, through no fault of their own. Wake up America – We've become a consumer driven debt ridden society. Over the past several decades, all that our traitorous politicians from both parties have been doing is selling out the American People, by stalling, spending, removing protections and allowing illegal aliens to continue to pour in and American jobs and industries to pour out, and all while collecting their American tax-payer funded paychecks, benefits and whatever else they get on the side from their various lobbyist friends. Nowadays it's obviously not about Americans being either lazy or uneducated as many try to profess, but about wages, benefits, expenses and regulations in other countries that are not even remotely close to the wages, benefits, expenses and regulations in our country – It's not just happening with blue-collar jobs – It's happening to engineers, IT people, biotech workers, customer support, procurement, managers, etc......................... And the American citizens on the lower end of the skill spectrum need jobs too. It has all happened way too fast – Our government leaders should have put measures in place to make it slower, so that it wouldn't devastate our country, which has no chance when competing with other countries that don't play by the same rules or have pay scales that are even remotely close. It's Not Rocket Science – We need a much larger volume of income-tax-paying American citizens working again in order to generate enough revenue to fund The United States of America – It's not rocket science – If Americans aren't working – The America that we all know and love is not going to continue to exist – It's about the volume of dollars and jobs going out our country vs. the volume of dollars and jobs going out. Our huge trade deficit and indebtedness to foreign countries like communist China is obviously not in the best interest of our country or the American people. Something has to be done because our current system is not working – Other countries like Germany, Japan, Sweden, Canada and China protect their domestic industries, citizen’s jobs and business and it's about time that we start doing so as well. Bringing manufacturing back home to the USA is going to end up being not only a key to restoring our economy, but to maintaining our national security as well. The American People need actual Loyal American Leaders who will start coming up with some sensible measures and putting them in place to stem the tide or this is going to continue to have a devastating effect on the United States of America and the American People. The only real fix for our great country is to bring back businesses and jobs to income-tax-paying American citizens. That's where our government leaders have to step up and put some sensible measures and incentives in place to keep jobs here in the USA or the real economy and infrastructure of the country we love will be destroyed along with the future of the American people. The bottom line is that "Our Government" has to protect domestic industry and the jobs that those industries provide – If they do that, the rest will take care of itself. The American people will need good jobs with health-care benefits in order to be able to pay for the services of those educated doctors, lawyers, college professors, etc – It can't all be chiefs and no Indians – There is an equally important place for both of them in America. Being conservative is all well and good - Our constitution is great – But, our failed trade and immigration policies are not. The ridiculous concept that protecting our own country's and citizen’s physical and economic health is somehow socialistic is bizarre – It's not socialistic – It's patriotic and loyal – And trying to sell us anything to the contrary is traitorous. But, on the other hand, random minimum wage increases are just a smoke screen without addressing the root of the problem – First we'll have to bring back domestic industries and businesses to the USA and income-tax-paying US citizens – And that's going to mean securing our border, adding tariffs/VAT, providing tax incentives to keeping jobs and industries here and employing US citizens as well as adding disincentives for outsourcing / hiring illegals / abuse of the H1B foreign visa worker programs. NEWS FLASH: Our leaders are supposed to be elected by the citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself – They are not supposed to be representing Wall Street, lobbyist, international corporations, the global marketplace (WTO, NAFTA, TPP, KORUS), foreign citizens, foreign interests or illegal aliens – And it's about time that all of our so called leaders started honoring that fact. Enough of the bought and paid for puppets that have destroyed the real American economy and the future of the American people. Let’s face it, if wasn't for Trump, our puppet politicians and media would still be talking about peripheral social issues rather than the core issues facing the American people, the real American economy and the future of our country. What the American people need are leaders that will put the best interests of our own people and country first and foremost, especially our veterans. God help us if Hillary gets in – And Trump is the only one that can beat Hillary and appears to be the guy to get us headed back in the right direction.

Russ Bischoff
Russ Bischoff

– We definitely need a major change in our country. It's become painfully obvious that both parties are just doing the bidding of their masters, while lamely trying to look like they're trying to represent us – Let's face it, neither party really wants to fix the core economic issues like outsourcing, illegal "immigration" and the importation of foreign H1B visa workers, because they want the cheap labor – For way too many years now, all that either party has been giving the American public is lame political posturing, tokenism and rhetoric – They treat the issues as political footballs and just point fingers at each other or even worse yet, just ignore the real core economic issues altogether – They've used peripheral social issues for years to polarize and distract the American people to the left and the right, while they sold us out to other countries like communist China, India and Mexico with the complicity of both sides of the media who are owned by a handful international corporations. It's Not Rocket Science – Since the free traitors have had their way of it, our largest export has been American jobs and money. At least Trump, Carson, Sanders, Webb and Santorum are finally bringing some of the actual core economic issues out into the light of day – Let's face it, if more Americans would have listened to Ross Perot back in 1992, we wouldn't be in this mess right now. For the last 25-years our government has allowed and enabled our country's industries to get sucked out to countries like communist China, India, Mexico, etc and allowed illegal aliens and H-1B foreigners to continue to pour into our country and take away income-tax-paying American's jobs and drive down wages. Good news for the American People would be more full time jobs with occasional wage increases and without getting benefits taken away – And we all know that that's not happening. Unfortunately, because of what our so-called leaders from both parties have allowed and enabled to happen to our country and the American people, there are continuously more and more Americans falling out of the middle class, through no fault of their own. Wake up America – We've become a consumer driven debt ridden society. Over the past several decades, all that our traitorous politicians from both parties have been doing is selling out the American People, by stalling, spending, removing protections and allowing illegal aliens to continue to pour in and American jobs and industries to pour out, and all while collecting their American tax-payer funded paychecks, benefits and whatever else they get on the side from their various lobbyist friends. Nowadays it's obviously not about Americans being either lazy or uneducated as many try to profess, but about wages, benefits, expenses and regulations in other countries that are not even remotely close to the wages, benefits, expenses and regulations in our country – It's not just happening with blue-collar jobs – It's happening to engineers, IT people, biotech workers, customer support, procurement, managers, etc......................... And the American citizens on the lower end of the skill spectrum need jobs too. It has all happened way too fast – Our government leaders should have put measures in place to make it slower, so that it wouldn't devastate our country, which has no chance when competing with other countries that don't play by the same rules or have pay scales that are even remotely close. It's Not Rocket Science – We need a much larger volume of income-tax-paying American citizens working again in order to generate enough revenue to fund The United States of America – It's not rocket science – If Americans aren't working – The America that we all know and love is not going to continue to exist – It's about the volume of dollars and jobs going out our country vs. the volume of dollars and jobs going out. Our huge trade deficit and indebtedness to foreign countries like communist China is obviously not in the best interest of our country or the American people. Something has to be done because our current system is not working – Other countries like Germany, Japan, Sweden, Canada and China protect their domestic industries, citizen’s jobs and business and it's about time that we start doing so as well. Bringing manufacturing back home to the USA is going to end up being not only a key to restoring our economy, but to maintaining our national security as well. The American People need actual Loyal American Leaders who will start coming up with some sensible measures and putting them in place to stem the tide or this is going to continue to have a devastating effect on the United States of America and the American People. The only real fix for our great country is to bring back businesses and jobs to income-tax-paying American citizens. That's where our government leaders have to step up and put some sensible measures and incentives in place to keep jobs here in the USA or the real economy and infrastructure of the country we love will be destroyed along with the future of the American people. The bottom line is that "Our Government" has to protect domestic industry and the jobs that those industries provide – If they do that, the rest will take care of itself. The American people will need good jobs with health-care benefits in order to be able to pay for the services of those educated doctors, lawyers, college professors, etc – It can't all be chiefs and no Indians – There is an equally important place for both of them in America. Being conservative is all well and good - Our constitution is great – But, our failed trade and immigration policies are not. The ridiculous concept that protecting our own country's and citizen’s physical and economic health is somehow socialistic is bizarre – It's not socialistic – It's patriotic and loyal – And trying to sell us anything to the contrary is traitorous. But, on the other hand, random minimum wage increases are just a smoke screen without addressing the root of the problem – First we'll have to bring back domestic industries and businesses to the USA and income-tax-paying US citizens – And that's going to mean securing our border, adding tariffs/VAT, providing tax incentives to keeping jobs and industries here and employing US citizens as well as adding disincentives for outsourcing / hiring illegals / abuse of the H1B foreign visa worker programs. NEWS FLASH: Our leaders are supposed to be elected by the citizens of the United States of America to represent the interests of those citizens and the country itself – They are not supposed to be representing Wall Street, lobbyist, international corporations, the global marketplace (WTO, NAFTA, TPP, KORUS), foreign citizens, foreign interests or illegal aliens – And it's about time that all of our so called leaders started honoring that fact. Enough of the bought and paid for puppets that have destroyed the real American economy and the future of the American people. Let’s face it, if wasn't for Trump, our puppet politicians and media would still be talking about peripheral social issues rather than the core issues facing the American people, the real American economy and the future of our country. What the American people need are leaders that will put the best interests of our own people and country first and foremost, especially our veterans. God help us if Hillary gets in – And Trump is the only one that can beat Hillary and appears to be the guy to get us headed back in the right direction.

John Felden
John Felden

trump is honest he puts all his cards on the table everyday no bull

Ronald Gray
Ronald Gray

Don't forget the FEMA death camps and the Jade Helm military take over of Texas!

Kage Edwards
Kage Edwards

Yeah, I keep seeing Dems and Reps alike push spying legislation and pump money into war, yet both sides give the same rhetoric with a different emotion card. Are you more heartfelt? Let the Democrats hug you. Are you angry? Let the Republicans fight for you. End of the day, neither cares about civil liberties such as privacy and due process or civil rights either. They just sit around thinking up new sound bites.

Damien Boyd
Damien Boyd

We live in an age of enlightenment. It doesn't seem like it most days, but we all have power. Even this platform gives our voice wings. Forget about the Media, BE the media.

Pat Perkins
Pat Perkins

The "liberal media" is mostly owned by conservatives, but "corporate media" is a much more realistic name.

Len Morlock
Len Morlock

This is why we should be taking their power away, not looking for ways to give them more.

Holly Stowe
Holly Stowe

I at least trust corporations more than I do politicians...

Mary Stout
Mary Stout

You got it. I quit watching the news or reading the paper. Now I'm not as informed as I'd like to be but I think what little I do know is correct.

Joseph Lippert
Joseph Lippert

They also don't have the organization to get out the vote, nor the party support in Congress to accomplish anything. Whoopie.

Gary Will
Gary Will

I wish the misrepresentation were limited to just the parties. We don't get a true representation of America, or Americans. We are constantly being pushed and manipulated into directions that fit their agenda, even when the outcome is disastrous for the country. That's beyond just bad policy, that's scary sick and evil.

Gerald Miller
Gerald Miller

Some ideas are good but some are way out of line think I'll bypass this run

Gerald Miller
Gerald Miller

The mass media won't print or report on anything that doesn't fit obama's agenda

Jay Fulton
Jay Fulton

Power back to the states and people. Conventionofstates.com

Jay Fulton
Jay Fulton

A President like Bernie would be scary. We need to take the overreach of the Fed and give power back to the states and people. Starts here with Article V conventionofstates.com

JD DeLemont
JD DeLemont

If you don't like how the government does things, then agree with you. Maybe try helping me by changing things instead of complaining? The media is basically useless on this. Maybe start doing posts with basic civics information, since civics class was taken from schools?

John Liptok
John Liptok

no kidding ? in 2006 when running I said how all the press was controlled , and how they reported all votes in and the results ...rep 90 dem 88 , rep 79 and dem 90 and they say its all based on 100% ..well that dont add up do it ? so in 2012 what they do ? rep 50 dem 50 , rep 70 dem 30 ..they made every single race 100 % BUT that cant be ...because 25 % of the vote is US MILITARY and the military in 2012 by order of obummer was NOT allowed to vote ... and 5% would have gone to all the mickey mouse and donald duck votes , and 10 % or more to the INDEPENDENTS who ran ( there were 25 in 2012 ) , so they lied and committed election fraud again .... for 80 years they have been doing it . I was sent a letter from the election bureau and told I won 3 spots ...the people voted me in 3 positions ...and the dem & rep REFUSED to swear me in to the jobs , and put thier own people in .... ELECTION FRAUD /TAMPERING .... in 2012 I ran for President and was told OFFICIALLY I got 32000 votes ... and that was after the local cops put a 9 inch pipe bomb on my $30 K van , and sent me 100 citations in the mail to tie me up in court , and the feds coming to my house demanding I stop running and telling me BS rules to run ( 1- you must be a dem or rep ...2 - you must spend and recieve at least $5 M , 3 - you need a committee with secretary and treasurer ) most of the guys running right now dont have all those qualifications ? the worst is all the press and agencies and org . out here that advertise and yet dont tell the truth ...who they back .