Who’s Really Ahead: Current GOP Delegate Tally, Guesses or Fact?
By Kymberly Bays | 02/09/2012 | Elections 2012, President | 9 Comments
Current GOP delegate counts in the media are all over the place. Credit: ABC News, CNN, HuffPost, NBC News, Fox News
Media focus on the Republican presidential primary process is on a perpetual 24/7 news cycle, relentless and rife with circus sideshows (Hello, Mr. Trump). Yet, the constant microscope from the press hasn’t prevented mainstream media outlets from mangling the delegate count. Presently, the number of delegates pledged to any candidate is far less than media outlets are reporting and mathematically point to only one outcome so far: a brokered Republican National Convention.
Not So Fast Gov. Romney
Let’s make this clear: Gov. Romney may be leading when it comes to the polls and his pocketbook, but premature tallies of his delegates won up to today are greatly exaggerated.
Getting nominated for President is all about delegates – 1144 is the number the potential nominees are fighting for. While 8 states have held primaries and caucuses, of these 8 contests, only 4 have chosen actual convention delegates: New Hampshire, South Carolina, Florida (where the allocation system is still in dispute), and Nevada.
Just those four. New Hampshire. South Carolina. Florida. Nevada.
Assuming generously that Gov. Romney is awarded all of Florida’s delegates, IVN’s delegate count is currently as follows: Gov. Romney with 75 delegates consisting of 50 from Florida, 14 from Nevada, 9 from New Hampshire (including Huntsmen’s 2 delegates) and 2 from South Carolina. Newt Gingrich has 29 delegates consisting of 23 from South Carolina and 6 from Nevada. Dr. Paul has 8 delegates consisting of 3 from New Hampshire and 5 from Nevada. And, Sen. Santorum has 3 delegates – all from Nevada.
In the press, the breakdown is fluctuating wildly. Some, like CNN, have Gov. Romney pulling in 115 delegates currently. Huffington Post and Wall Street Journal are claiming Sen. Santorum has 72.
Take halt before assuming those counts are accurate. Consider the fact that news networks don’t seem to understand, or at least articulate to their viewers, what exactly happens during a caucus. Multiple states with contests in February hold them, where, as Politico points out, “delegates [are] mainly awarded on a proportional instead of winner-take-all basis, underdogs with less money but good organizations have a chance to get back in the game.”
Did someone say Ron Paul?
Notorious for his dedicated and meticulous attention to the actual dynamics of running a primary campaign, his staff keeps stressing one thing: winning delegates.
Dr. Paul’s strategy is to continue to siphon off sizable amounts of delegates and it’s due to a deep understanding of the system. How many know that in Iowa, NO delegates were actually allocated at the caucuses? Rather, there was a caucus preference, and after that, a second caucus was held to start the delegate allocation process. Later on, there will be county conventions and then Iowa will host their own State Convention. Dr. Paul supporters in Iowa were well aware that showing up “to vote” wasn’t enough. They had to stay through the end and complete the caucus process. It is likely that given the strong organizational skills, Dr. Paul will get most of Iowa’s delegates. The same principled approached was also replicated in Minnesota and Colorado earlier this week.
To be fair, caucuses aren’t very sexy. For the most part they are slow, logical and civil, so the less time spent wasting value television slots on them, the better. Right?
But the media oversimplification of the caucus process hasn’t fooled everyone. In response to a recent David Weigel article on Slate, Ron Paul Secretly Won the Caucuses, one commenter captured the sentiment on the ground where Republican party hopefuls recently came through:
In Colorado, we haven’t even elected delegates to the National Convention yet. We held our caucus this past Tuesday. It’s the same way in Iowa and Nevada. Even when we do elect them, they can remain “unpledged”. We won’t really know how many delegates any candidate received from most caucus states until June or later. I know for a fact that the presidential straw poll we held on Tuesday has nothing to do with the delegate allotment nor does it correlate with the delegate count.
In fact, all of the contests held earlier this week were mathematically insignificant despite being touted in the press as stunning results for Sen. Santorum and a signal for Speaker Gingrich to quit. In reality, 95 delegates from caucuses in Iowa, Colorado and Minnesota remain unpledged.
The Case of Florida
And then there’s Florida, which violated GOP rules not once, but twice by both moving up the date of their primary and modifying how they would assign delegates. The Republican National Committee (RNC), under the leadership of Michael Steele as chair, adopted a series of rules changes that penalized states that “went early” and also mandated proportional representation rules that removed the possibility that all delegates went to the statewide winner – at least early in the process.
Last week, former Speaker Gingrich claimed that Florida’s statewide winner-take-all rules violated RNC rules and signaled a convention challenge. It is important to note that RNC rules would supersede any state party rules or state statutes with respect to Republican Party delegate allocation. Assuming the New Hampshire proportionate representation model is followed in Florida with a 15% threshold, Gov. Romney would get 29 delegates and Speaker Gingrich 21 delegates. If a 10% threshold is used, Gov. Romney would get 26 delegates, Speaker Gingrich 17, and Sen. Santorum 7.
These changed nominating dynamics also explain Speaker Gingrich’s strategy. His campaign is anything but dead, no matter how catchy a headline that makes. He didn’t compete in any of the contests this past Tuesday because he too knew they were meaningless in terms of immediate delegate allocation. Instead, Speaker Gingrich is looking to a southern strategy whereby he can rack up big delegate totals.
What’s Next?
Another example of the changed dynamic under new rules will be on display in the next primary battle in Michigan on February 28th, where Sen. Santorum wants to make another stand. Michigan is an “open primary” state where there’s no party affiliation and persons become party members for a day. It appears that there will be 30 delegates allocated, with 14 being winner-take-all by Congressional District, and remaining 16 allocated proportionately to the statewide winner, with a 15% threshold.
A poll out of Michigan today taken prior to Tuesday’s contests showed Gov. Romney at 31%, Speaker Gingrich at 16%, and Sen. Santorum and Dr. Paul each at 15%. There is a good chance Speaker Gingrich will let Sen. Santorum go head-to-head with Gov. Romney in Michigan, letting the former Senator take the brute of Super PAC ad attacks. Dr. Paul, who tends to perform better on election day than the polling suggests, could do very well delegate-wise in Michigan, relatively quietly as he has continued to do throughout the race. Unlike past years Sen. Santorum and Dr. Paul will not be shut out in Michigan completely and the actual delegates that Gov. Romney will win is far less than otherwise might have been the case under the old rules.
The RNC rules changes have had the effect of turning half of the Republican contests to date into meaningless beauty contests. As such, barring a huge game changer the Republican contest will likely become somewhat like the epic Ford vs. Reagan contest of 1976 which went all the way to the Convention. Despite media-appointed “frontrunner” status or declarations that any current candidate’s campaign is dead, it’s still a wide open race.





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9 Comments
Mark Odom
02.10.2012
I still dont think these counts are right?? WTF is going on, is there any truth anywhere anymore???? Or is it all fiction????????
Been there done that over it
02.10.2012
No fiction. The article is right. What you saw on TV the night of the event was meaningless.
Three of the candidates are dependent on the media to make them popular with the people. One candidate has dedicated supporters who are getting themselves elected left and right as both delegates and local party chairs. The delegate process rewards service within the political process, not superficial popularity.
Joe Mama
02.10.2012
They just “estimate” the unpledged delegates to spin whatever story they want to make for the headline. That way you can take Santorum with only 3 actual delegates and create an exciting story about how he has 72! It’s a close race!
Been there done that over it
02.10.2012
Santorum just wasted millions in campaign funds to win three states this week, one of which doesn’t even have delegates at stake yet The other two have delegates at play, but Santorum doesn’t have the grass roots support to get any supporters elected as delegates. So in reality, Santorum LOST those states, even though he got air time from it.
Remember all of those small counties in Iowa that Santorum won? They all elected Ron Paul supporters as delegates almost unanimously. Paul will probably get at least 20 delegates from Iowa.
TRISH C
04.28.2012
HEY – YOU KNOW RICK DIDN’T HAVE THESE NUMBERS FOR REAL – OR HE WOULD HAVE STAYED IN THE CAMPAIGN – AND YOU KNOW NEWT DOESN’T HAVE THESE NUMBERS FOR REAL BECAUSE HE IS GETTING OUT OF THE CAMPAIGN – OF COURSE THE DEMOCRATS ARE RAMPING UP MITT BECAUSE THEY KNOW HE CAN’T WIN AGAINST OBAMA – YOU CAN’T WIN WHEN YOU HAVE NOTHING NEW TO ADD AND YOU VOTED FOR EVERYTHING THE PRESIDENT WANTED – I REALLY HOPE REPS WAKE UP SOON!!!!
Lee Bartholomew
02.11.2012
Was kinda noticing this after a Huffpo artical actually says how many did Rick win. ZERO. Ron Paul is ahead of Rick by quite a ways. Newts still number 2 Rons Second and rick is way way behind. Mitt of course is way way ahead. Not sure why the Republican method is so much harder than the Dems. I’d think Huffpo would be accurate, but they get their info from AP. zzzzzz
BrennanHartich
02.15.2012
@BrennanHartich
This is so confusing, how can the media make it sound one way and then the facts show it is completely opposite.
TRISH C
04.28.2012
THESE NUMBERS ARE STILL F’ED UP!! COME ON PEOPLE – GIVE RON PAUL HIS DUE – CAUSE I AM TELLING YOU RIGHT NOW, I WILL NOT – REPEAT…WILL NOT!!! VOTE FOR MITT ROMNEY – HE IS ESTABLISHMENT OBAMA/BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH, ETC ETC ETC – NOTHING NEW, NOTHING GOING TO CHANGE!! WANT REAL CHANGE WANT RON PAUL – QUIT LYING TO US AND JUST TELL US THE TRUTH!!!!!
david
05.03.2012
ron paul won 70% of the delegates in louisiana which is 30 whoever is coming up with these numbers cant even count