Data on National Debt Doesn’t Support Doomsday Sensationalism
By Ryan McLain | 02/02/2013 | Budget, Economy, In-Depth, Issues | 28 CommentsWebsites such as usdebtclock.org add to the urgency, creating an image of out of control spending that must be cured now or disaster is imminent. Even on IVN, there is a column that focuses on it. However, the reality is that the United State’s debt should not be that foremost of an issue.
Due to this cultural fear of the debt that has manifested itself over the past few years, this will likely come as a surprise. Even more, the notion of owing 16 trillion dollars as an issue of little importance will seem outlandish.
Currently, the United States has a public debt, as a percentage of GDP, of 73 percent. While somewhat larger than typical, since 1940 our public debt percentage has continually hovered around 40 percent, with the greatest amount being 113 percent during World War II, and the lowest amount being 24.6 percent in 1974. Tweet stat: Tweet
This low point of 24.6 percent was during the third worst economic crisis in the last 100 years. Meanwhile, during the economic boom of the Clinton presidency, debt varied between 49.5 percent and 34.5 percent. The notion that having a large amount of debt is inherently bad for the economy or that lowering the debt will improve the economy is a fallacy. Tweet stat: Tweet
Public debt also shows that, compared to the rest of the world, we are by no means in an extreme situation. In fact, we are not even in the top 30 nations with the highest public debt as a percentage of GDP.
Nations with truly urgent economic problems such as Zimbabwe (219.7%), Japan (205.5%), and Greece (165.3%), actually have over double the public debt we do. Even if we continued to spend at our current deficit rate, in the 2022 fiscal year public debt would climb to approximately 90 percent of GDP. While this is nothing to scoff at, it would take until approximately 2032 to reach Greece’s debt-to-GDP ratio.
There is also the publicly displayed fear that we will soon be unable to finance the debt due to loan interest rates and a lack of buyers. However, the numbers do not support this claim. The current net interest rate of about 6.4 percent is slightly below the average since 1940, and well below the 1996 peak of 15.4 percent. Economic growth is typically followed by higher interest rates, but the zenith rates of 1996 will not be reached for a very long time due to recovery and growth beyond this.
Source: U.S. Office of Management and Budget
As for treasury note buyers, the debt isn’t owned in large part by China as commercials such as this one would have you believe. In fact they only control about 7.2 percent, with 33.5 percent of the total debt owned by foreign nations and investors. If for some reason foreign nations started to no longer purchase it (they won’t), the Federal Reserve, private investors, and U.S. citizens making up the majority of treasury note owners would prevent a total disaster while a solution was crafted.
Economists also are not sold on the belief that the national debt is the most crucial of problems. One such individual is Nobel Prize winning economist and New York Times columnist Paul Krugman. In a January 1 article, he stated his belief that the nation can outgrow the debt:
…First, families have to pay back their debt. Governments don’t — all they need to do is ensure that debt grows more slowly than their tax base. The debt from World War II was never repaid; it just became increasingly irrelevant as the U.S. economy grew, and with it the income subject to taxation…So the debt didn’t make postwar America poorer. In particular, the debt didn’t prevent the postwar generation from experiencing the biggest rise in incomes and living standards in our nation’s history. Tweet quote: Tweet
Krugman is joined by individuals such as economist Dean Baker, Mother Jone’s Kevin Drum, economist Zachary Karabell, and many others who also feel that the debt crisis is not all that it is made out to be.
While debate over responsible spending and reform to certain programs is always needed, the delusion over the national debt being the most crucial economic focus needs to come to an end.






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James M Bennett
02.03.2013
@jbennettatty
There are problems with this analysis. First, the data Mr. McLain examines is stale (2010). It is true that removing intra-governmental debt, $4.8 Trillion (http://seekingalpha.com/article/1066631-are-intragovernmental-holdings-real-debt), representing money owed by the government to its own trust fund, would make the external debt seem lower.
But that observation highlights a related problem that Mr. McLain did not address: unfunded liability. This brand of liability is what Uncle Sam needs to have in the bank – now – to keep the promises he has made to Americans for the future. According to the nonpartisan group National Center for Policy Analysis, the unfunded liability of the United States is about $84 Trillion. $30.3 Trillion is needed to fund future demands of public debt holders, federal employees and current retirees in the form of Social Security and Medicaid benefits. Add in the remaining expected obligations to non-retirees for Social Security and Medicare, along with other federal obligations, and the tally rises to nearly $84 Trillion.
That’s a lot of Iraq and Afghanistan wars. You can means-test Social Security, but it is already means-tested at the benefits point. Benefits are skewed to favor low earners. And Medicaid is a bigger problem.
Private life insurance, pension and annuity companies have to put away reserves to anticipate future obligations. If they do not, their executives go to jail. With Congress, it’s different.
If the government faces default, it will be tempted to print money. We saw what happened at various points in history when government printing presses rolled. The Continental Congress, the Confederacy, the German Weimar Republic, and more recently Yugoslavia and Argentina tried running the printing presses. The results were disastrous, and human suffering was immense.
Contrary to Mr. McLain’s analysis, debt and unfunded liability are genuine problems. The longer we wait, the harder the fall.
Alex Gauthier
02.04.2013
@alexg
Really enjoyed your response here. Perhaps there has been a touch of hyperbole regarding the debt issue, but the debate is not without foundation. I would disagree with Ryan’s last line, “While debate over responsible spending and reform to certain programs is always needed, the delusion over the national debt being the most crucial economic focus needs to come to an end” the economy has become the central focus for both policy discussion and popular interest, ignoring it now would be counterproductive imo
Bill Rogers
02.05.2013
Absolutely not.
Job creation is the number 1 issue. Followed by strengthening the middle class and reducing poverty by creating more higher wage jobs.
Steven Williams
02.05.2013
But why should a nation be in debt at all?
Douglas Neslund
02.05.2013
“Independent Voter” – I CALL A FRAUD! You are socialists if you ask an obvious question like that!
Kendra Plowman
02.05.2013
I think the most crucial economic problem–faced by more than just the American economy–is an inability to create long-term sustainable growth. Most decisions made are just temporary, and create an even messier problem six months down the road.
Ron Regan
02.05.2013
I agree with Bill.
Alice Gordon
02.05.2013
Honestly I think medical health, infrastructure and free education are our investment in the future. Jobs are second to redoing an economy which need not be based on jobs but on production -n the two are related but not identical.
Non Aggression Principle
02.05.2013
Mulligans
Charles Karter
02.05.2013
You have to fix trade first to add a source of income for infrastructure, then agriculture because of health. Then you can get to those issues, you have to look at the big picture because every decision effects everything else. http://ckamerica.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-roadmap-to-prosperous-america.html
The thing is we can’t solve any of these issues because we don’t have control over our government.
Thom Evans
02.05.2013
Methinks Douglas doesn’t know what a socialist is. To him it’s just a bad word to label someone else. Lol
Jerry Haslem
02.05.2013
What is not taken into consideration in those numbers is unfunded mandates. The path we are on is unsustainable.
Steven Breedlove
02.05.2013
Agriculture and efficiency (energy and water) are most important. We are setting ourselves up for economic, social and ecological disaster if we do not start building for resiliency.
Trinda Martin-Wolfe
02.05.2013
Just because we’re not the “worst” doesn’t mean we need to ignore this giant problem and wait to become the worst. Don’t be an idiot.
Scott Malensek
02.05.2013
Nice number juggling. It transposes public debt w govt debt which is 103% of GDP not 30%, and that’s using 2year old data. The national debt is now 17000bn not 16, and the gdp is in decline so the actual ratio is well over 105%. I do believe it is the nation’s most crippling problem. Yes, other countries like Zimbabwe and Japan do have higher debt, but there are two problems w that comparison: 1) they are different countries w different economic bases and structures, and 2) they got that way by believing that increasing blind deficit spending would save them; ie the proposed leftist plan.
At the end of next month sequestration will begin, and then during next month the Congress will have to tackle the debt limit can that’s been kicked down the road for years. Each kick has made it a bigger problem, harder problem, and I think this time….it’s gonna get ugly.
Carl Mariner
02.05.2013
Our country’s most crucial economic problem is not our debt- it’s our deficit and our lack of budgetary controls to prevent the deficit from continuing to balloon. The concern is not around where our debt currently is; the concern is around where our debt is heading due to our lack of fiscal leadership.
Joseph Hewitt
02.05.2013
This type of stat and conclusion is very misleading and I’m surprised to see it on IVN. After WWII, we had manufacturing to fall back on to work the debt back down. The world economy is different and we don’t have much wiggle room left with our economic boosting abilities with stimulus. This means our ability to work the debt back down to a reasonable level is severely diminished. That is why people are worried about the debt level…because we don’t have the economy or the absolute or comparative advantages anymore to deal with it.
James M Bennett
02.12.2013
@jbennettatty
I agree. There were three principal differences between the so-called “on the books” debt coming off of World War II and today:
1. The holders of the debt were domestic.
2. The debt was incurred because of a true national emergency, and
3. The unfunded liability was substantially lower.
Today the picture is different.
Patrick Gossett Hffhstuff
02.05.2013
It doesn’t surprise me to see such a miss leading post on IV anymore as its just become another spot for pushing Liberal Socialism.
To say that we are only at 30% GDP is almout laughable.Try 105% at minimum.
We have 145 Million People supporting 88 Million. We have unfunded mandates that will put us at 200% GDP in less than 5yrs thanks to Obamacare.
If you want to compare the US to other countries then it should be noted we are the only country in the world that relies on the top 10% tax payers for 90% of our revenue..
People who are so delusional to claim that its not important because we need jobs, education, blah blah blah really shows how ignorant we as a society have become on how an economy works.
If we cannot any longer borrow to pay for all these thing how are we to move forward?
That same thinking is why we have a nation of dead beats who can’t make payments on their homes.
Ryan Kiplinger
02.05.2013
Don’t forget to mention the $80 trillion in unfunded liabilities.
Jess Kalinowsky
02.05.2013
Public debt is authorized by CONGRESS, it is NOT at the hands of ANY President! Congress and only Congress spends money!
Dianne O'Dell
02.05.2013
US debt is now 200% of GDP. YOUR SORCES are not accurate
Mark Williamson
02.05.2013
This story is complete and utter propagandist horseshit. The debt IS the number one issue facing the future of this country, and as noted previously, your figure of 73% GDP is widely misleading, as the total debt is currently 104%. Even 73% is too high. This debt was accrued to pay for such entitlement spending as Social Security, Medicare, Welfare, and all that other socialist garbage that eats up 55% of the national budget and needs to be drastically reduced or eliminated IMMEDIATELY.
Marty Keller
02.05.2013
As several commenters have noted, the federal debt is at 100+% of GDP. This accumulation is the result of our collective flight from personal responsibility–private debt is equally out of control, averaging more than $50K per person. If we are honest with ourselves, we have to admit that this debt is never going to be repaid at face value. Never. The only question is, will we have an open and fair bankruptcy, or will we do it through inflation. Not betting on the former, myself.
Rbwinn3
02.04.2013
@user117
Regardless of how long the two major parties can continue to finance party excesses with money borrowed on national credit, the fact remaining is that however much money is borrowed, none if it will benefit independent voters. So independent voters should go the other direction on this issue. I started to do so when Bill Clinton was President and have made a small contribution every year since that time to the Bureau of the Public Debt for the purpose of paying the debt. So when party members want to talk to me about the debt, I just break it down this way:
Contributions for payment of the nation debt 2008-2012
Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and all other Democrats plus
Mitt Romney, the Koch brothers, Donald Trump, and all Republicans
__________________________________________________________________________
– $6,000,000,000,000.00
Independent voter Robert B. Winn
______________________________________________________________________
+$160.00
Robert B. Winn
Dennis Pederson
02.05.2013
It’s in the top three
Brandon Fallon
02.05.2013
@bfallon
The national debt is important because it is integral to the economy and future obligations. Not everybody may think of it as such, but the future conditions are predicated on what we do now. The U.S. isn’t in as bad a shape as Greece or Japan, but as the nation with the highest GDP, a growing debt problem bears a lot of relevance to the global economy. Look at how much Greece is impacting much larger economies in Europe like Germany, France, and Italy. Paul Krugman even said that the U.S. needs to change the tax code to better prepare for nation’s future economic health.
If nothing is done now, the problem will get worse and we will say we should have been more proactive.
Sure there are other things that Congress and the President need to worry about. Like all other big issues, the economy has been brought up with every topic from healthcare to foreign policy.
Rbwinn3
02.12.2013
@user117
Any time independent voters think that increasing the national debt benefits independent voters in any way, consider how much representation independent voters have in Congress. So why can’t independent voters run for office and gain representation? They cannot run for office because federal courts have declared independent voters to be the only voters not protected by the provisions of the Voting Rights Act of 1965. Political parties, say federal courts, can require independent candidates to show a “modicum of support”, which in Arizona, the state where I live, means they can be required to obtain about seven times as many nomination petition signatures in order to appear on the ballot than a Democrat or Republican. Why Democrats and Republicans are not required to obtain a “modicum of support” has never been explained. Any time independent voters are voting to increase taxes or to increase the national debt to give the two major parties more money to buy votes for their party politicians, they are voting to increase the “modicum of support ” independent candidates will be required to show.