CA Bill Would Lower the Voter Preregistration Age to 15
By Brenda Evans | 01/22/2013 | California, Electoral Reform, Headline, News Ticker | 101 Comments
California District 19 Sen. Hannah-Beth Jackson / PHOTO: Sen. Jackson’s Facebook
A proposed California initiative would lower the voter preregistration age to 15.
Under the bill put forward by Senator Hannah-Beth Jackson (D-CA), 15-year-olds could preregister when they get their learner’s permit at the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). Pre-registrants would remain ineligible to vote until they turn 18.
“I see this as an opportunity to encourage teens to make sure they register to vote,” Jackson said. “We really need to have people at all ages voting and voting in large numbers, and it also encourages more lifelong engaged voters so we end up with a vibrant and healthy democracy.” Tweet this quote: Tweet #CApolitics
Under the Motor Voter Law of 1995, people are allowed to register through the DMV and many other government agencies, a move to make registration more accessible. Jackson reasons that “becoming a driver is an important rite of passage, and so is becoming a voter,” so pairing the two together is convenient.
Pre-registrants also have the option to apply through the Secretary of State’s online registration system or by mail. California Secretary of State Debra Bowen is sponsoring the bill.
“Young people are more likely to become lifelong voters when they are engaged early, so offering the opportunity to preregister will be a powerful tool in getting them hooked on democracy,” Bowen told The Sacramento Bee. Tweet this quote: Tweet #CApolitics
According to Jackson’s press release, Florida, Hawaii, Rhode Island, North Carolina, Maryland, and Delaware, and the District of Columbia already allow voter preregistration at the age of 16. Oregon allows voter preregistration at the age of 17.
Unlike the Jackson press release, which states that “preregistration programs in Hawaii and Florida encouraged young people to start voting and keep voting,” a George Mason University case study on the programs in Hawaii and Florida showed that this type of program is not very effective.
The study concludes the number of preregistration applications generated through impersonal means such as the DMV or through the mail were less than those acquired from Rock-The-Vote-style assemblies.
“Preregistration is most successful when it occurs with face-to-face contacts between young people and election administrators or
other volunteers. Simply enacting a preregistration law is insufficient to engage young people to preregister,” the study states.
According to the release, nearly one-quarter of all Californians who are eligible to vote are not registered. Participation is even lower for young voters, with only half of eligible voters registered. Share this fact: Tweet #CApolitics





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101 Comments
Emma Goda
01.22.2013
@emmagoda
Personally I think this is great because it ensures that people will be registered to vote and hopefully when they turn 18 they will be more likely to just go and vote.
Lucas Eaves
01.22.2013
@lucaseaves
I don’t know exactly the efficiency of that program but it does not do any arm to offer the opportunity for someone who get its driving licence at 15 or 16 do register to vote at the same time. And as they are usually living at home with their parents, they are unlikely to change address until they in the short term.
Alex Gauthier
01.22.2013
@alexg
i think it’ll be interesting to see how this program impacts voter turnout. My suspicion is that it’s effects will be negligible
Brenda Evans
01.22.2013
@brenda
A lot of the feedback on California news websites has been negative.
Michael Higham
01.22.2013
@michaelhigham
I wonder if there’s a significant operational cost for implementing pre-registration. If so, I don’t think it would be cost-effective. I’d like to have a pre-registration in CA as I believe it will give young people time to move past oversimplification of politics.
Gordon Haner
01.22.2013
Bad. Too much influence and not enough free thinking on their own. Not even into the world yet.
Ellen Hillwig
01.22.2013
Bad idea most voters don’t even know the issues and how they have good motives but really bad consequences.
Justin Weist
01.22.2013
Dumb
Jay Clagg
01.22.2013
hilariuos
Erin Bo Barin
01.22.2013
People read the article before forming an opinion. Talk about not knowing the issues. They wouldn’t be allowed to vote until 18.
David Donhoff
01.22.2013
*AWESOME* idea!!! Its a race to the bottom, and they will win! They’ll go fully collectivist faster, bankrupt faster, and lead the nation to complete ruin.
*THEN* the fiscally responsible people who stepped aside (calling John Galt!) will inherit a completely defaulted collapse without any of the legacy crap we’d have to deal with if we tried to take over and repair the disaster currently in place.
Noël Barna
01.22.2013
Horrible idea… 15 year olds need to focus on getting through school and being 15 year olds not being brainwashed into who to vote for.. They are way to young and impressionable to have a responsibility like this..
Michael Dontigney
01.22.2013
Bad… We don’t need to make it EASIER to vote! Thats how we got in this mess in the first place! You should know the issues, and make a concerted effort to vote. Not as most 15 year olds would do, because it’s cool, and to fit in.
Bobby Bates
01.22.2013
Stupid – more Obama loving kids wanting free sh@t
Gifford Alexander
01.22.2013
Terrible idea. Most 15 yr olds have no clue about the repercussions a vote can cause or how the issues impact the lives of adults.
Lynn Milner Walker
01.22.2013
Dumb and dumber.
Bad, bad idea!
Shannon Drinkwine Covel
01.22.2013
What’s the point? They can’t vote until they are 18 and if they really want to vote, they will register when eligible to do so. Does anyone truly believe that pre-registering to vote will have any affect on whether or not teenagers pay attention to their government? Adults who have been registered for years still do not.
Brenda Evans
01.22.2013
@brenda
Shannon, that was my first thought as well. They think preregistration will increase the likelihood of voting when they are 18, but that doesn’t necessarily work.
Stephen Bone
01.22.2013
Mmmm… Why register for something you can’t do for three years? I suspect there is an alternative agenda here.
Bill Long
01.22.2013
Horrible idea!!!
Rick Ostrowski
01.22.2013
Why not the people running for office are immature know it all types might as well get that type of age demographic
Mike Smith
01.22.2013
More lower informed voters. Just what CA needs.
Independent Voter
01.22.2013
Good point to bring up Erin – “Under the bill put forward by Senator Hannah-Beth Jackson (D-CA), 15-year-olds could preregister when they get their learner’s permit at the Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). Pre-registrants would remain ineligible to vote until they turn 18.”
Marion MG
01.22.2013
No it should be the same age in every stat
Joshua Tucker
01.22.2013
@Bobby You are a moron:
“Pre-registrants would remain ineligible to vote until they turn 18.”
How does this have to do with Obama anyway? In KY for example there are shitloads of moron Republicans who would love to vote pre 18.
Herb L. Gillispie
01.22.2013
Good idea IF they make a mandatory class in junior high for US government and political science
Janet Lynn
01.22.2013
What the hell let’s let them vote as soon as they are born. WHAT THE HELL does a 15 year old know about what is really happening in the country. So let’s say we do, then I expect them to go into the military at that age as well
Jim Schraner
01.22.2013
? are they being offered red bull and free tatoo vouchers?
Cody Lupardus
01.22.2013
Preregistration doesn’t mean they can vote. Just that they are registered. It could work to motivate them to be more willing to consider the issue in advance if they are registered early. Although I don’t see why we aren’t like many parts of Europe- registered at birth.
Marion Brown
01.22.2013
so in the hopes they will vote when they are 18 they register them at 15 and pay the costs associated with keeping up with all that. In most states you have to get a new license at 18 anyway so how about really registering them then instead? 15 yr olds would think this is just retarded. It isn’t going to make them want to vote at 18!
Malaki Seku-Amen
01.22.2013
Passing US government courses in high school is a prerequisite for graduation. Why limit this to registration? They should be allowed to vote as well!
Shannon Cooper
01.22.2013
Hell I know some kids smarter than there parents when it comes to politics
Deborah Egan
01.22.2013
I think 18 is too young! Need to get a bit of life under your belt before deciding the future of this country.
Fred Mussmann
01.22.2013
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO mmore rats for the piper
David Kruse
01.22.2013
it should stay exactly the same. 15 year olds are mature enough to make thorough decisions like this. there are a good amount of 18 year olds who are the same way, but at least you have a good amount of smart 18 year olds, as well as smarter older people.
Cody Lupardus
01.22.2013
They think it actually matters? xD
Henry Kaminski
01.22.2013
I think they should raise it to 25!
Steven Rampage Fantasmic
01.22.2013
so we might has well let them join the military at age 15. the reason it was 18 because it was them becoming adults. they have the right to join the military at age 18 so thye can vote at age 18
Patrick L. Correa
01.22.2013
I hate this state!!!
Steven Rampage Fantasmic
01.22.2013
in the state of illinois you cant move on to the 8th grade unless you pass the constitution test and you can’t graduate unless you take a government class in high school
Brent Ramsey
01.22.2013
Bad Idea we already have to many uneducated young people voting on emotion instead of truth I say there should be a political history test before anyone is allowed to vote and if they don’t at least 50% they cant vote sorry tired of being ruled by ignorance!!!
Patrick Gossett Hffhstuff
01.22.2013
Yeah the Democrats need to expand on their uneducated electorate..
Cody Lupardus
01.22.2013
The right to vote shouldn’t be based on age at all though. There should just be a requirement to pass a US government class- make it required to graduate high school so that such a class in not a deterrent to becoming registered to vote. Only problem is history/government classes are white-washed MERICA!!!! versions of reality. Would have to have some way to make sure that what is taught is not too biased.
Luke Enoch
01.22.2013
This is a great idea. There’s not many useful ways to get kids talking about such an important and typically boring subject.
Cody Lupardus
01.22.2013
Most voters are old people who vote the way their parents did and voting for changes that will effect the young, not themselves. At least teen are rebellious and will look at new ideas with an open mind and they are the ones who have to live with the results.
Veronika Fimbres
01.22.2013
Eighteen and no younger! Fifteen years is too young! They already have enough on their plate! Hell, I can barely get through and understand the voters guide!
Regena Jeannie Morgan
01.22.2013
Preregister just means they will be on the voter rolls & when they don’t vote in the future it will be easier for someone to vote in their name. You know, like how the dead vote now days. lol
Jason TEPOORTEN
01.22.2013
@jasontepoorten
I think any process that makes it *easy* to register to vote in elections that occur on or after they turn 18 years of age (or turn the minimum age eligible in that electoral jurisdiction) is one step to encouraging that future voter.
I’ll remain within the topic of voter registration (electoral enrolment).
In Australia, enrolling for eligibility to vote is very simple, even before the days of having online forms over the Internet. Back in 1993, I was in my final year of high school, aged 17, and was able to submit a very easy enrolment form to the Australian Electoral Commission so I could vote in upcoming elections that occurred after I turned 18 years of age.
I’m sure everyone knows casting a ballot is compulsory in Australia; however citizens have been able to avoid voting by delaying their enrolment, since if one is not enrolled, they cannot be followed-up and issued a fine for non-voting without a valid excuse. In 2012, the Australian Electoral Commission launched a campaign, “Count Me In”, to encourage imminent school leavers to enrol themselves before they left high school. Followed up by this campaign are two Federal Bills proposing electoral roll maintenance through interactions with other government departments and automatic enrolment. Refer to http://annualreport.aec.gov.au/2012/report-on-performance/australians/stay-on-the-roll.html for further information.
Enrolling in Australia through the Australian Electoral Commission covers local government, state government, and federal elections through one form.
Sorry for the long comment, but I thought I could add to this topic with how electoral rolls (voter registrations) are handled in Australia.
Cara Thorsen
01.22.2013
Why would you want a bunch of teenagers whose brains haven’t caught up with their bodies to vote?
Cwinters Winters
01.22.2013
It doesn’t make any sense. What do they gain if they preregister? Would political organizations waste time and resources to target them when they cannot vote? It isn’t like getting their permits to drive. With a permit they see immediate benefits. Voter preregistration? Not really. Also, they would probably have a change of address by the time they are of voting age. Who would keep track of that? Do they have to declare a party affiliation?
Christopher D. Ritter
01.22.2013
I like the idea of lowering the voting age, but we would need a new way to engage the youth. Facebook voting!
Stacy Alexander Dill
01.22.2013
I think they should at LEAST have a high school government class first. Why is this a GOOD idea anyway? They’ll vote eventually.
Herb L. Gillispie
01.22.2013
I’m afraid California left the Constitution test behind a long, long time ago
Jean Balsamo-Weintz
01.22.2013
Califoria is a mess ..ha ha this is a joke let drink too ..idiots ..
Herb L. Gillispie
01.22.2013
oops. gotta read the article, as admonished above. It is simply an attempt to get more youth registered to vote but they still cannot vote until 18.
Herb L. Gillispie
01.22.2013
the idea is to register them at the DMV when they get their permits/licenses, while they’re paying attention and available
Julie Tomas Sonderegger
01.22.2013
No it will promote fraud. If they are no longer there someone else could overtake their vote in their name.
Ketan Hazari
01.22.2013
bad idea. skewed influence of parents’ political alignment
Ken Scott
01.22.2013
totally stupid
Debra Kass Pierron
01.22.2013
Bad idea. Most young voters do not have enough experience to understand politics, but less be able to make an informed decision. I don’t think they should be able to vote until they are 30!
Victor Friskey
01.22.2013
if we are going to have them voting that young..why not even register…just say vote when ever you get a chance and on a particular day we will count all the votes…
Pam Spicer
01.22.2013
No. When they are ready to engage in the political process, they can make the effort to register. It’s not that difficult! We don’t need more people voting, we need more informed voters.
Steve Stratton
01.22.2013
Dems want to get them addicted early!
Kathy Verduzco
01.22.2013
wow the stupid get stupider every day
Kathy Verduzco
01.22.2013
Heck most adults don’t know the issues
Randy Newman
01.22.2013
It’s California : Enough said
Michael Higham
01.22.2013
You have to understand that the bill is about PRE-registration. I agree that it’s not that huge of a change, if anything it’s more about symbolizing interest in politics. Maybe through this idea, young people would devote more time to understanding politics. Maybe it’ll work, maybe it won’t. It’s an idea.
Leo Zicc
01.22.2013
if you can suit and boot up at 18 to defend this country you deserve the right to vote deb. ww2 produced thousands of corpses too young to vote
Donna Jean Rettmann
01.22.2013
Preregistration? What the heck is that?
Ben Marcus
01.22.2013
If you have to pay taxes, you should get a say in where the money is going. If 15 is too young to vote, then it’s too young to pay income tax.
Lynn Milner Walker
01.22.2013
<—Guilty! Good point, Erin!
Tyler Rasmussen
01.22.2013
Ridiculous. Let’s get even more uninformed voters involved. Great idea. By the way how are all those brilliant ideas working out for California so far?
Jacob Broge
01.22.2013
Clearly none of you actually read the article..
Aaron Camp
01.22.2013
Raise voting age to 30. I could use another year to mature anyway. Also, I like the idea of no pre-registration…join the party membership if you want, but pull the parties out of the voting process and make people vote for a name that they’ve been forced to read up on.
Peter J. Watts
01.22.2013
As to voting age, sure. Being old(er) makes one so much more open to new ideas and change. Both ends of the spectrum can be poor decision-makers.
Carol Belflower Bland
01.22.2013
I think it would be the perfect platform for indoctrination into Liberal politics. When they are 18 they still think they have all the solutions on how to solve the worlds problems and would be perfect for brainwashing them into making socialist views stronger, while they still have no clue as to how things really work in the world. What they hear in school about US and world history has been so rerouted and sanitized it’s not even real history anymore.
Russell Taylor
01.22.2013
Then would come the pre-voting age brainwashing by BOTH parties, I bet they are much easier to guide into the roles of non thinking sheep.
Keith Pyron
01.22.2013
Perhaps teaching “Civics” in school would be a better idea.
Jane Logan
01.22.2013
A better idea is to give businesses tax credits for employees who participate in the democratic process. That would encourage working people to get involved instead of the really young and really old :)
Russell Taylor
01.22.2013
Evidently Not too many Americans have political sense, they have let two parties take turns screwing them for decades now, and the very best thinking of BOTH parties have us RIGHT where we are now.
Susan Crouse
01.22.2013
Deborah Egan – if they are old enough to be sent to fight phony wars, they are old enough to vote.
Russell Taylor
01.22.2013
You can bet BOTH parties would take advantage of this.
Kelly Kamplain
01.22.2013
After they enlist for 3 years.
J.d. Parks
01.22.2013
OK…so the age limit remains…just like the citizenship requirement?
Pete Norris
01.22.2013
That’ll fix it….!!!…Now we can have more time to corrupt them….
Derek Strong
01.22.2013
What does it cost? Why does a 15yo need to register to vote, but not for selective service? All of this dream act legislation running around does seem to pander to that crowd.
Susan Crouse
01.22.2013
Teenagers have no hold on a group of citizens who are intellectually challenged and/or extraordinarily intellectually lazy. Just look around you at people who are actually elected to office. They weren’t put there solely by teenagers. This country has a very lazy electorate. They vote by the knowledge they gain from ads and sound bytes.
Penny Hull
01.22.2013
I say if they are old enough to vote, then they should be allowed to drive a car and drink a beer
Douglas Neslund
01.22.2013
BAD IDEA and the voting age should be RAISED to 25. People below that age haven’t lived long enough to appreciate the big picture, much less the details!
Lauren Hussain
01.22.2013
Translation: We think you’re too immature, uneducated, irresponsible and foolish to drink alcohol for many years to come … exactly what we are seeking in a voter.
Shannon Cooper
01.23.2013
I know 80% would of voted Ron paul
Paul Shiras
01.23.2013
Most people today vote without understanding the consequences
Christopher Smith
01.23.2013
Nice to see that the Democratic Supermajority is fast at work assuring that they will retain power and control of the very state that they have destroyed the most for decades to come, rather than start to fix the very messes that they have created. Can anyone say abuse of power strictly for more power not doing what is best for it’s citizens.
Christopher Smith
01.23.2013
Besides why should we be encouraging people that are too lazy to register themselves to vote to vote? Oh I see, because as the fold that you have manipulated and fooled realize how completely full of crap you are you will lose power. So indoctrinating the needy and college populous isn’t enough.
Cathy Walker
01.23.2013
Really bad idea. What is going on???? Anything that pops into anyone’s head is our new direction????? In that case, go back 5 years and erase everything since then. Because that is when the insanity began in this country!!!
Meredith Tsunehara
01.23.2013
very bad idea…they don’t kow enough …bad enough a whole genration doesn’t know anything about history…that’s what happens when coaches teach history
Juan Oscar
01.23.2013
really? is this an actual question. The constitution states 18, so therefore that initiative is invalid. Hello! really! like Ellen Hilwig said.
Scot Douglas
01.23.2013
Voting age should be raised, We want informed rational voters. People should have to earn the franchise. What people get for free they don’t value.
Stephen Lumpkin
01.23.2013
Great. Backdoor to the draft?
Elizabeth Ann Weathers
01.23.2013
Read the article-she isn’t asking for 15 year olds to vote-just register….. I agree with Scott and Stephen….!
In California, they are allowed to vote through the mail, not just the disabled or people with circumstamces-everyone! Crazy
If you can vote through the mail than why not do away with the electoral collage and just vote online.
David P. Semak
01.23.2013
Why not? If they work and pay taxes they should have some voting rights.