Berman Sherman Debate Turns Ugly over Appeal to Party Base
By Blaz Gutierrez | 10/12/2012 | California, Congressional, Elections 2012, Legislation, Legislators, States | 5 Comments
Photo: Jay L. Clendenin
The increased political competition made possible by the California Open Primary has led to numerous circumstances in which members from the same party will face off. In those instances, the candidates can take one of two potential strategic moves: They can either try to show how much more loyal they are to their party base than their opponent or they can attempt to reach out and attract new voters who would not normally vote for them.
The Berman Sherman debate was held on October 11 at Pierce College as part of their Politics at Pierce series. The conversation turned sour when the candidates’ attempts to out-Democrat each other quickly dissolved into a near-physical altercation.
At issue was the authorship of the Dream Act, which provides a path to citizenship for a limited number of undocumented immigrants who came to the US as children. The candidate who can align him or herself with the Dream Act and similar legislation would likely obtain support from Latino voters who already vote heavily in favor of Democrats.
Tensions rose as the two candidates, both Democratic incumbents from redrawn districts, argued over who deserved more authorship credit. The current version of the Dream Act is sponsored in the House by Berman who introduced the proposed legislation in March 2009, while Sherman signed on as a co-sponsor in November 2010. It should be noted that the earliest incarnation of the Act appeared in 2001 by Senator Orrin Hatch (R-UT) and that the current version of the Act still stands under consideration and has not been enacted.
As the moderator attempted to gain control of the situation Sherman shouted “Don’t you dare stand up here in the West San Fernando Valley and get in my face!” At that point Sherman placed his arm around Berman and then the two stood face to face before a sheriff’s deputy could intervene.
The Berman campaign seized upon the opportunity and distributed a 22-second clip of the incident and a press release entitled “Brad Sherman attempts to start fight at college debate.” A slightly longer clip has been circulated and is available here:
Voters have now learned that appealing to the party base leads to unconventional tactics including physical intimidation. At the very least, the old days of voter intimidation are hopefully behind us, but what remains is equally distasteful. Voter registration records for the California 30th Congressional District show that there are nearly 75,000 registered voters who are listed as no party preference. This accounts for almost 20% of the district’s population. There’s also no shortage of funds to reach out with either, with the CA-30 Congressional race being perhaps the most costly in the state. Candidates in that race have raised a combined $6 million.
Rather than engaging in physical stand-offs, the candidates might be better served by reaching out to those independent voters, many of whom will likely be unimpressed by a display of force. The candidates should recall that they are best served by encouraging voters to show up at the polls, not turning them off to the entire electoral process.





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Jane Susskind
10.12.2012
@jsusskind
“The candidates should recall that they are best served by encouraging voters to show up at the polls, not turning them off to the entire electoral process.” — Exactly. Starting fights won’t make people go vote…if anything, it will prevent them from wanting to be involved in the process.
Alex Gauthier
10.12.2012
@alexg
Strange way to start an altercation. ‘I’m going to side-hug you so hard you won’t know what hit you’
Dave Francis
10.12.2012
@Dave Francis
Is America going to remain responsible, for other countries dismal human rights records? Are we just going to keep on importing more and more poverty, stifling the honest immigrants that wait patiently for years on our doorstep? Is the U.S government ignored for decades a need for tracking visitors, or even intentionally cutting off funds for constructing the real double layer fence at the border, committed by the George Bush presidency under the 2006 secure Fence act. I often wonder if there is some secret pact between those authorities south of the border and our own agencies, which we will accept a certain amount of their desperate illegal migrants, to proliferate for farming and corporate entities.
When our government has determined that regions of the border are being held by the drug cartels and these criminals have remained immune by intervention by ICE or even our military and that our sovereign nation has been invaded; that ranchers and landowners are fearful for their families and are in constant stress and live under prison conditions. Then we have Obama’s Department of Justice continuously attacking states as Arizona, because they can least afford the hundreds of millions of dollars states are forced by the courts to pay for free medical care, education for the children of illegal aliens throughout this country. Hundreds of billions of dollars are literary extracted from taxpayer’s pockets, to pay for illegal aliens stealing into America with unborn babies to pay for their delivery, their education and public welfare cash payments.
The TEA PARTY “THE PEOPLES PARTY” has stepped up to the plate. The TEA PARTY OF ALL RELIGIOUS DENOMINATION, EVERY CLASS, EVERY RACE ARE FED UP AND FRUSTRATED WITH THESE FREE GIVEAWAYS. NOW AN ESTIMATED 41 MILLION TEA PARTY MEMBERS AND STILL GATHERING STEAM AND ARE OPENLY FLOWING INTO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND ARE READY TO TACKLE THE CORRUPTION IN BOTH PARTIES.
ODDLY ENOUGH THE LIBERAL JOURNALISTS IN THE MAINSTREAM PRESS THINK THE WHOLE MOVEMENT HAS DISSOLVED, AFTER THE MASSIVE CROWD THAT OVERWELMED WASHINGTON DC SOME YEARS AGO. WE ARE STILL HERE AND WILL BE CAREFULLY WATCHING THE VOTING PUBLIC IN NOVEMBER. WHEN 71 PERCENT OF LEGAL HISPANICS HAVE STATED THEY WANT PHOTO ID’s SHOULD SHOWN, TO PROOF WHO THEY ARE ACCORDING TO THE PEW HISPANIC CENTER.
The children of illegal aliens have been unaware of their status, caused by their criminal parents entering our country? The Mother should be held responsible and deported as they have cost for decades record amounts of taxpayers’ money. SO UNLESS A SIMPLE CHANGE TO 14th AMENDMENT IS IMPOSED, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT SHOULD BE GOING TO OUR OWN POOR, OUR OWN HOMELESS OUR OWN CITIZENS, INSTEAD OF BEING APPROPRIATED TO PAY FOR ILLEGAL ALIEN WELFARE.
Today there has been a remedy for them through President Obama’s executive preference, although it should have been voted on in the Congress. This inconceivable problem will never go away and will indeed get far worse unless Congress enacts the BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP BILL. It is highly controversial and unless an amendment is forthcoming, the state treasuries will be forever drained. Pregnant mothers coming here with the deliberate plan to have their child on welfare and the hundreds of Billions of dollars extracted by inept federal laws of that says children born here automatically receive citizenship. The illegal alien parent is feeding from the welfare trough, without ever paying a cent into the fund. This can only escalate further as President Obama is encouraging illegal immigrants and migrants to come, by delivering free food stamps without any restrictions. Just look at California, THE SANCTUARY CITY STATE” Where Los Angeles city Administrator gave out the latest payout of the children of illegal alien parents. Two months and a hundred sixty million dollars later and now Los Angeles is pushing for another tax hike. This is incredulous-to let our lousy, incompetent federal government pay for all these illegal aliens in this border state. NO WONDER CALIFORNIA IS IN A DOWNWARD FISCAL SPIN?
Only the enactment to this amendment can stop this problem by making it official that only the children of at least one parent being a U.S. citizen. Also waiting for a vote in the House is mandatory E-verify “THE LEGAL WORKFORCE ACT” law to halt illegal aliens taking citizens and lawful residents jobs. Why this law sits dormant stands to show how many the politicians care about the legal workers, although this law has been carefully hidden from site by none other than Democrat majority leader Harry Reid. Why with 8.1 percent of Americans are jobless, why either the House or Senate refuses to bringing either of these laws to the HOUSE AND SENATE CHAMBERS.
Obviously the 47 percent mainstream Liberal-Communist-Marxist progressives will provide the ammunition to attack Romney, but they will stay silent about the pandering to the “Freeloaders” the scroungers, parasites and illegal aliens who live off the rest of us. Not forgetting that many in the percentage are the infirm and handicapped that needs a helping hand.
Cassidy Noblejas Bartolomei
10.14.2012
@cassidynb
“Voters have now learned that appealing to the party base leads to unconventional tactics including physical intimidation.” –What a disappointing display…
That video is extremely awkward! Berman & Sherman must be embarrassed, for sure man.
Michael Higham
10.15.2012
@michaelhigham
I thought they were pretty cool with each other, I hope they eventually squash the beef if they haven’t already. This shows that there are differences within party lines and that open-primaries are showing that.