We’ve all heard about the war on drugs, war on women and war on Christmas, but did you know there’s a war on the AARP as well? A competitive organization with political overtones, AMAC (the Association of Mature American Citizens) is trying to siphon both members and dollars from AARP (formerly the American Association for Retired Persons), longstanding leading voice of senior Americans.
“It seems an individual’s right to practice their religion is attacked, only to be replaced by a strange social order.”
AMAC implies, and sometimes says outright, that AARP is not conservative enough to represent right-wingers. In fact, AMAC is pushed by Townhall.com and other far right media organizations.
Based on AARP’s June “Bulletin,” most of its positions are politically benign, albeit with a focus on issues important to seniors such as Social Security and Medicare. Articles include “How to Avoid Phony Locksmiths” and “Divorce After 50 – It’s Skyrocketing.”
But there are two articles that could easily show AARP’s political hand: “Retooling Medicare” and “Time for a Tune-up” (of Social Security). But as it turns out, both articles take a carefully balanced take on potential changes to both Medicare and Social Security. Even the Paul Ryan approach to Medicare funding gets a fair hearing.
So what’s the problem with AARP? Well, they do support the American Care Act (Obamacare), which is anathema to the right wing. They also tend to support increased taxes on the wealthiest Americans, and they are not doctrinaire on the abortion issue.
But the real heart of this battle between the two organizations may be about money. Both AARP and AMAC sell various kinds of insurance to their members (health insurance, long-term care, auto and life insurance) so they are competing for a growing market of seniors.
The differences in size and scope of the two organizations are stark. AARP claims around 40 million members, whereas AMOK is thrilled to announce that it has now reached 330,000 members. Townhall refers to AMAK as David to AARP’s Goliath.
AARP has revenues from insurance royalties and advertising in its various publicans of around $800 million. AMAC does not provide revenue figures.
AMAC’s biggest claim to fame is its proposal to fix social security by turning it into individually owned IRAs. The organization claims that its plan would provide increased benefits with no increase in taxes.
No one questions the right of an American company to compete in any marketplace, but AMAC was not created to offer a competitive advantage. It exists primarily to press a right-wing political agenda that counters an organization whose political focus is almost entirely on issues for and about the nation’s senior citizens.
As reported by Fox News Radio:
“(AMAC President) Dan Weber sees AMAC as a way to unite citizens to defend our American way of life.”
With this comment, Weber makes AMAC seem more like a radical militia group then a serious support organization. Rather than providing a useful alternative for information to seniors, AMAC adds to the further splintering of American politics along partisan, ideological lines.
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Not only does this article seem one sided, I noticed they misspelled AMAC twice in one area as AMOK and AMAK, not very good writing. What has happened to reporting the facts and spell check? I am enjoying reading many of the comments here and agree that it is time for a counter to AARP.
Lets be perfectly Clear! AARP got is $Billion payout for endorsing the UN -affordable care act. To be perfectly clear , the vast majority of its membership were not swindled by its faulty crazy double-think socialist agenda. Well they will get not another penny from me not will they get any more kick-backs from from United insurance. I have joined the millions who are levering and joining AMAC. i wont pay a fee to be sold -out and have the social security be robbed to balance the Obama Care PHYSICAL AND SOCIAL IRRESPONSIBLE
AARP was originally founded by the Democrats as an alternative to the Christian Coalition. The Chrisitan Coalition was an organization that printed non-partisan "Scorecards" that printed every senator and representatives vote on sensitive issues such as Abortion rights, 2nd Amendment rights etc They merely disclosed how EVERYONE democrat and republican voted and did not give advice as to who anyone should vote for. It was completely non-partisan. The democrats sued them for disclosing their votes and kept them in court with frivolous lawsuits until they bankrupted them. They also passed a rule that no individual votes could be printed in the Congressional Record, only final tallies of for and against so that their members could plausibly deny voting for or against anything they wished. This benefitted both parties! The only people it didn't benefit was anyone wanting to know who voted for what!! My question is "Why don't the dems want me to know how they vote" Could it be because when the Media tries to blame things on the republicans their votes tell a different story if anyone checks? Why did they sue an organization for just publishing their voting records, the Republicans didn't care who knew how they voted! The democrats are deathly afraid of their actions being brought to the light of day because they and the media can't lie when the truth is out there. Remember in 1993 when the dems raised taxes and not one republican voted for the raise and the media couldn't interview any republicans on camera to make it appear that is was they who did it. The American people saw who did it and the next year voted all the dems out in both the senate and house. THEY remember that I'm sure and they know the truth will always hurt them hence their shutting the Christian Coalition up because they knew those scorecards that were distributed freely for the asking told the truth and they couldn't cover their actions up with a media blitz. You can expect the same to happen to AMAC and any other organization that opposes or exposes their elitist agenda.
Partisanship just for the sake of being obstinate, or just to be on the other side, doesn't make sense. But when one side's (the Liberals) platform persistently advocates high taxes, big government spending, big government regulation of the private sector, and wealth redistribution, partisanship becomes a common sense survival instinct for all those who cherish freedom. In the limit, Liberalism leads to the People working to support an invasive government instead of working to support and raise their families. Since the AARP supports Liberal orthodoxy, I support AMAC. What's wrong with you?
I'm not sure how you get "With this comment, Weber makes AMAC seem more like a radical militia group then a serious support organization" out of “(AMAC President) Dan Weber sees AMAC as a way to unite citizens to defend our American way of life.”...that is, unless you presume that all conservative groups are "radical and militant"...which is obviously the presumption here.
I also find it odd when someone makes a statement like "...AMAC adds to the further splintering of American politics along partisan, ideological lines.". Politics are, by nature, partisan. If they were not, it would be an autocracy rather than a Republic. And upon what, pray tell, should politics be based if not ideology? What we need is MORE ideology, and less power, in politics.
I see this article as quite a declaration of where IVN stands in their political bias. I think AMAC is the way to go. They will be fighting for the America I remember!
biased, uninformed regarding what seniors need, assumes we're unable to wade thru the malarkey for ourselves--bye bye AARP-can you hear the landslide of people leaving?
I dropped AARP and The Hartford when they said they were speaking for me in polotics, especially supporting The Mulatto Lyin King.
17 Trillion Debt? 42% Interest? Open Borders? No ID for Voting?
Government Shutdown? Spying on Private Americans? On and On…!
The Rocks (The Edward Snowdens) will cry out exposing the biggest fraud in history – Barack/Barry Hussein Soetoro-Sutoro-Suttoro-Soebarkah-Dunham-Obama a.k.a. Harrison J. Bounel SS# 042-68-4425 (Snopes.com), etc.
Even the Obama Infidels (America's 51.06%) will know they have been hoodwinked. They will finally learn that there is no such thing as a "free lunch". Free food stamps. Free housing. Free utilities. Free Medicaid. Free college. Free ADC. Free WIC. Free SSI $ for Cubans and mental/behavior problem children. Free cell phones. Free "cash for clunkers'. Free support for solor power. Free aid to other countries (especially countries who want to kill non-Muslims (Americans) etc. It doesn't take a Socrates to know a fraud when you see one. Oh yes! OvomitCare? Kudos for Sen. Cruz, a real American!
Even though this was a pretty pro-AARP article, it seems fairly significant to me that every one of the other 7 comments on this article are from seniors who are displeased with AARP's liberal agenda. I read this article to find out more about AMAC, and I did! I'm going to join, and not for the discounts, but to help them in their fight to represent MY views! Thanks for all your comments!
AARP sent me a membership card before I turned 50. They obviously wanted my money. I soon quit them and did not belong to any senior organization until AMAC came along. AARP is an extreme far left political organization, all in with the Democrat Party. They do not represent my views and I am sure do not represent the views of the majority of American seniors. They have built their huge money machine over time. AMAC can do the same. Any senior who studies the positions of both organizations will likely choose AMAC. The products sold by either organization do not interest me but I very much appreciate the conservative positions of AMAC.
What a Liberal biased comparison this is. I've been unhappy with AARP ever since my mom joined it 20 years ago. Now that I am eligible I refuse to join. AARP is all about profits and making big money for their executives. An organization for seniors should be beneficial to seniors. Any organization can get kickbacks for selling insurance and other products so seniors don't need AARP, there are many alternatives for those products, especially if they support opposing political views. Amac supports my views and I am not a right-wing extremist as the author assumes. I will join what suits me and others can do the same. Its still a free market system, although the AARP may wish the US was a command economy so that the government can mandate all citizens must join and pay up.
At least AARP membership is voluntary. The Delaware teacher's union I was once in had forced membership/Dues even though I disagreed with many of their political actions and would have quit except the state/teacher contract mandated membership or I would lose my job. That was definitely not a free market system. At least I can choose Amac over AARP without fear of reprisal.
I was fortunate that my parents scraped together money which allowed me to go to College. I studied hard for a degree and was able to pay most of my own costs thru scholarships earned at school plus working at the college nearly the entire time. I then was fortunate enough to have a successful career and am now retired comfortably. Washington and AARP seem to be in lock-step wanting to create a social system where the past success's are used to fund a lazy new electorate with give away programs which only create new lazy voters. If I were in charge I would demand workfare programs for all healthy persons who receive assistance. We could start with industries which we sent overseas (like clothing) and fill all the empty factories with new equipment and the cheapest labor force in the world:( those we are already paying to not work). If they don't want to do the work then lets stop paying them better then the young people who do work in our current employment environment. I can handle helping them but we do need something in return besides "give us more".
I have been involved in politics for over 50 years and when I joined AARP at age 50 thought I was getting into a good spokesman for seniors - it has certainly changed from my initiation into AAPR - and unfortunately not for the better. Obamacare is certainly a death sentence to seniors (others with challenges) who may have a serious illness or condition - or will have - Doctors will be told (by non- health care people) NOT TO do what is best to improve them, but to give them medication to "make them comfortable". Not exactly what I am looking for.. I am 75 - have pretty good health - but I do have more challenges than when I was 25. So, if I get hurt or seriously ill - they figure I am not productive enough to improve and will just "make me comfortable" until I die. That is only part of the ObamaCare program. Also since AARP sees fit to support that and a number of non American/Consitutional items - I will see fit to drop them and will be joining AMAC. Talk to some doctors, real estate people, etc. (yes real estate) - what does that have to do with the Health Insurance ObamaCare - nothing with health care, but everything with a new tax on homes - included in the ObamaCare health package. Lots more hidden agendas in that piece of junk. If we don't do something to protect our freedoms in this country from socialism - we won't have a country (as we once knew it) to live in with freedom.
Once again, I came to an article looking for an unbiased comparison between these two groups. This one is definitely pro AARP and attacks AMAC on several points, even trying to be cute by calling it AMOK in one statement. I haven't been happy with AARP's positions on several items over the last 15 years or so. I'm 71, but I joined AARP when I was 46 (yes, they accepted my money and sent me a card), so I've been reading AARP's stuff for the last 25 years, and I've seen a big shift to the left. I'm conservative, and I don't want the government stealing money set aside in SS that was suppose to only be for SS, but the politicians have been siphoning off SS funds for at least 15 years and then wanting to cut our benefits to cover the lost revenue, because the government has never paid that money back.
AARP is definately left of center and on Team Obama. I am proud to have just joined AMAC with its patriotic and traditional values. I am sure as they grow (and at last count I was told it was over 700,000) and that was awhile back, more companies will start becoming discount partners. I only see this thing putting a bigger and bigger dent in old AARP. I am glad to see the word getting out as the majority of seniors are conservative and traditional values oriented. Kind of like liberal radio( or lack there of) When liberal ideology is laid bare it doesnt do well in the market place. AARP is backing the healthcare bill that is widely disliked in poll after poll so I would say AMAC is more in line with the American People.
AARP will reap about 1 Billion ( with a B here folks ) over 10 years because of Obamacare. Medicare Advantage fades away, and AARP replaces it with its supplemental insurance. Nice collusion if you ask me. And, how you equate AMAC with a so called radical right wing militia is what I expect as do so many millions of conservatives from Liberal folks. Emotional labels, versus simple facts. Weber does have an agenda. And, that agenda does have sound moral and ethical reasoning behind it. So again, when someone stands up for the simple principles of our Nation's founding, and takes a stand on the horrific over spending in Obamacare and other Leftist agendas, you label him and his organization as " a radical right wing like militia group.......Cheesy and low rent discourse on your part, period.
I just went onto Medicare and purchased a supplement via United Healthcare. It was close with a plan from Mutual of Omaha. But to get the plan from United, it was mandated to join AARP for one year. In my first year, my premium on the United plan has gone up 10%. AARP has become the 800 lb gorilla and a bully in their activities. Now, these are facts supported by real life review.
This essay is so predisposed against AMAC and anything else ideologically right of center that it is reduced to childish propaganda, just silly. It should be ignored.
AARP has become a wolf in sheep's clothing. Lots of "neutral" articles you can find elsewhere, disguising a far-left political agenda on both fiscal and social issues. Abortion. Gay rights that attack religious liberty. Socialist economic policies that will hurt seniors big time.
Alan Markow sounds like he's on Obama's payroll. Same old tactics - attack! attack! attack! - Ridicule those who don't agree with Obama's schemes! Weber (Amac) talks about defending the American way of life, and Markow translates it to "splintering of American politics along partisan and ideological lines"! I totally agree with Amac's philosophy, have long been against AARP's politics! I have joined Amac and allowed my AARP membership to lapse. Certainly nothing to lose!
I heard of you for a couple of years but Bill Bennet this morning put me over the top and I thought I would subscribe
Have the government replace the money they 'stole' from social security and stop paying benefits it was not designed for.
Docial Security is solvent. If the government hadn't borrowed money from SS to fund the Iraq war, there would be almost 4 TRILLION dollars in the fund. As it is, there is almost 2 trillion still in the fund.
Markow did a fair job of comparing AARP vs AMAC, but missed some important points.
AARP has done nothing to solve the Social Security solvency problem. Unless something is done benefits will be cut by 25% in the future.
AMAC has a solid proposal to keep SS, make it solvent and ADD an IRA benefit, not replace it.
AMAC is conservative- not a far right group.
AARP is decidedly left of center, is THE largest lobbying organization on Capitol Hill, and yet claims to be politically benign. Why don't they support my 2nd Amendment rights?
I think the note in this article that talks about how much money AARP gets from endorsing products tells the tail. As documented in AARP financial statements of a couple of years ago, they get nearly three times as much revenue from endorsements as they do from member dues. It should surprise no one that member interests are subordinated to the AARP's bottom line income. AARP also lies to members without any chagrin as was clearly demonstrated in their supposed "town hall" meetings that were conducted to generate support for Obamacare. Their is no question as to their liberal bias. No thinking senior who wants an organization that serves its members' interests should belong to AARP .
I am a moderate, in that I go by where the facts lead me, and in that, I have found the AARP does two things; first, it ignores the requests of its members, and has been slowly loosing them, and I am glad to see another one coming up, second it has taken a strong progressive move with the members voices, that they do not support. In other words, the AARP is supporting issues in politics that a lot of their members do not support, and has been ticking them off. I have in fact started a movement of people who oppose the AARP's vision to reject them, and in less than one year has grown to about 500 + people that are telling the AARP they do not want any thing to do with them, and refusing to join. IT will be nice to share this information with them as so they have an alternative to the Leftest AARP.
Thank you for this information.
I think he meant a political defense against the government taking over control of our medical care and things like that.
Also, reading the AMAC proposal to improve Social Security- AMAC wants to keep Social Security- make it solvent and ADD a Social Security IRA, not replace SS.
@ retired teacher "AARP is all about profits"...um, it's a non-profit organization. What are you talking about?
Ummm, no, Toe the line... please refer to>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toe_the_line
My thoughts precisely. I Guess Presidential "Support for Muslim Brotherhood" = a Closet Al Qaida sympathizing Jihadist too then....
What a slanted piece of garbage article.
@Michael C. Gomiller, Sr. Sir there is not one thin dime in Social Security because there is no Social Security Trust fund. There is a repository for the IOU's, ie; government bonds, that our government replaces our Social Security funds with before placing them in the general fund along with all the other taxes it collects. This is akin to trying to save money by placing money in a shoebox on payday and then through the week replacing the money with IOU's. Years later when it's time to enjoy those savings and take them from the shoebox all you have is iou's and no money. The bonds they are placing in Social Security are like iou's and as everyone knows our bonds are almost completely worthless right now that's why our government is printing 85 Billion a month to buy them themselves at present. There were trillions in the Social Security Trust fund when the politicians voted to take and spend that money and replace it with IOU's. WAKE UP all you people that have no idea how our government is operating. Now the elitists would rather just use obamacare to kill off seniors rather than give them what they have worked for all their lives. That is their answer to Medicare, Social Security and all the other programs that are broke because of their stealing taxpayers money to buy votes with free housing, food stamps, telephones, rent assistance, agricultural subsidies, and money given to communist fronts such as Acorn and hundreds of others.
Wow, what revisionist garbage. The government (Congress) has been spending the Social Security Surplus as "Income" for over 40 years. The Iraq Wars? what nonsense. There is no "Trust Fund" Just a bunch of long term obligations that the current population of workers has to pay to support. Given that our President has been a failure...I repeat, a failure at freeing up Capital to enable economic Growth, the percent of American's working is at a historic low, and non-discretionary spending is headed for all time highs and will continue to increase until 2030 where it will all go to hades unless the economy starts growing tremendously.
So, stand by amigo, living standard are headed down for most seniors unless the President becomes one hell of a good capitalist....
I have believed for four decades that AARP was primarily a lobbying group for senior citizens. This article has proven what I also suspected was true: that the organization existed largely to collect income from its insurance endorsement plans. But AMAC is indeed a far right group, contrary to comments made to this article. I believe AARP has also requested that Social Security and Medicare withholding taxes be applied to a higher rate, or unlimited, which would do world towards making it solvent.
PS: I was a high income earning professional, and lifelong Republican until 2005, when the Republican party left me. I am now a moderate independent, and marvel at how both the Republican and Democratic parties, appear to be dominated by the 'crazies' to the right and left, respectively.
@akcita That's why he wears a ring (has worn it since he was 17 yrs old) that has engraved on it "Allah is the one true god". He even wore it as his wedding ring so he wouldn't have to remove it because he is "Married" to Allah! That's why he is sending arms to Syria even though our intelligence agencies have assured him they are being given to Al Qaida and even being used in Yemen to fight the government there! He has never known a bad muslim even if they are in the business of killing women and children! Please don't read this as an attack on Obama, merely an expression of facts as reported in various news organizations such as the Washington Times.
@Dorsett Bennett Sir how can putting more money in Social Security make it solvent when they take every dime collected from Social Security taxes and place it in the General fund to be gave away in welfare to buy votes for the democratic party. All there is in the trust fund is government bonds which are worthless today, backed only by the word of the government that is 16 trillion in debt and going deeper in debt every day and begging for the right to go even deeper by raising the debt ceiling. You people are operating in a delusional world when you think there is any MONEY in the trust fund because there is only government bonds, make believe paper that will be entirely worthless when they quit printing the 85 BILLION in PAPER money A MONTH. Our DOLLAR gets devalued more with every dollar that has been printed (3 Trillion AND COUNTING) since Obama took office. Why do you think food costs and everything else is rising so dramatically, the dollar is worth less so it takes more to buy everything. The only reason we do not have hyperinflation today is because the whole world has been printing paper money and devaluing their currencies to match ours. OUR GOVERNMENT IS BROKE WHICH MEANS OUR MONEY IS WORTHLESS AS IS THE BONDS THEY HAVE BEEN REPLACING THE SSA FUNDS WITH FOR YEARS IN ORDER TO SPEND THEM IN THE YEARS THEY ARE COLLECTED TO TRY AND REPLACE THE MONEY THEY ARE THROWING AWAY BUYING VOTES. Watch the depression that will happen in this country when the dollar is no longer the reserve currency in the world. There are countries such as Russia, Iran, China, Japan and many more that are beginning to buy and sell oil in their own currencies instead of the dollar. China is buying Gold by the tons in order to back their money with gold and hopefully become the new reserve currency. Every country in the world is hoarding gold and repatriating their gold held offshore in anticipation of the dollar's collapse as the reserve currency because nations will no longer have to have them to trade oil and commodities. Nations are already refusing to buy our bonds, the same bonds that are in our SSA trust because they see our bankruptcy coming. Wake Up!!
Sadly, I must concur. Our once great country is tearing itself apart from the inside. Compromise was once the order of the day. No one seems to know how that's done any longer. The great leaders of the past are gone, replaced by petty, self-serving egoists that don't deserve to sit in the same seats as those greats.